Andrew,

It would be great to know more about Bucky :-)

What about Respondr? Do you think this will be around long enough to attract many adopters?

I think Universality is dead, but I agree that mUniversality might still have a future. WebViews in native mobile apps still need a theme to render in, especially if the default theme's detached mode renders a sticky header nav bar.

-- Anthony.


On 12/11/14 20:56, Andrew Petro wrote:
Drew,

I agree that I **feel** Universality and mUniversality should be
deprecated and then removed.

I’d feel more confident in that with more discussion in this thread:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.jasig.uportal/17788

that is, I’d love to know adopters had successfully migrated forward to
achieve their theme desires via Bucky and that therefore the product was
dropping Universality and mUniversality because in practice adopters
were no longer using those.  As opposed to the product dropping them
without having demonstrated that adopters successfully migrate forward
to Bucky.  Less about developer feelings and more about the product
responding to adopter adoption.

So.  I think we need a few more rounds of making noise about, hey, what
needs to be better about Bucky and what needs to be better about this
upgrade path, o Universality and mUniversality adopters, such that your
migration forward to Bucky is obvious, before removing these.  Visibly
deprecating them might be a great step in that making-noise process.

Bear in mind that while I'm looking forward to an exciting responsive
MyUW feature, the current production default is Universality /
mUniversality, and will remain so for the near future.  That while James
and others have shared promising ideas about how to make Bucky a more
suitable upgrade path from mUniversality (render less on landing on
mobile), those ideas are not yet implemented.  Such that an adopter
today could reasonably say that mUniversality is still their best foot
forward for some mobile use cases.  Once that sounds less reasonable,
it's going to be more clearly sound to drop mUniversality.


Kind regards,

Andrew

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drew Wills <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Should these themes be removed in 4.2 (or 4.3, 5.0, etc.), or should
    we retain support for them indefinitely?

    I’m inclined to believe we should remove them at some point, I’m
    just not sure of the right moment.  It’s a bandwidth drag to
    maintain them, and they’re enough long-in-the-tooth that I don’t see
    anyone innovating on them.

    Thoughts?

    drew
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