Wah anu leres kang? Meni tega kitu nya maranehna.......
Padahal nya Islam teh kawitna ti Saudi pisan, abdi ayeuna tos bubuara mang
taun taun di Saudi asa nembe ngadangu nyaeta sebatan ieu teh, Alhamdulillah
rerencangan abdi di padamelan (mayorotas urang Saudi, urang Eropah oge
seeur) asa teu aya anu janggal atawa aneh, puguh ngadangu ibar siga kieu,
babasaan, kalakuan, da asa teu ngaraos pisan abdimah, mungguh unggal dinten
teh asa teu benten sareng di urang, pagaliwota sabihara, malihanmah meni asa
aya punjulna, margi aya langkungna dina enggoning gaul sapopoena didieu
(Saudi), nyeta dina babasaan sadidinten, dina pendakna sareng waktu shalat,
urang sauyunan ngadegkeun eta shalat, malahan mah asa teu aya
"diskriminasi", tiap shalat bagian imam digilir, abdi remen janten imam
maranehna, teu asa asa deui, teu asa aing urang Arab, ridha urang lianna
janten pamimpin maranehna.... 

Malahan aya anu matak reeus, aya urang Indonesia anu sapopoe na pacabakan
ngan ukur tukang beberesih, tapi anjeunna tos janten imam masjid anu
kalintang ageungna, mun diemutan mah pan si ma'mum teh seeur anu ngartos,
malah saha nu terang diantarana aya anu kasebat syeikh, nu jegud kacida, anu
pangkat luhur, tapi mungguh ari agama mah tos cecepengana, geuning tukang
beberesih ti nagri lain oge jeneng janten pamimpin maranehna, subhanallah...

Nanging ketah, da abdi mah mereun nyarios kieu teh dumeh numutkeun naon wae
anu katingal, karasa jeung kaalaman ku abdi di hiji daerah, nyaeta anu
dicicingan ku abdi, duka tah upami di daerah sanesmah, tiasa wae leres
mereun.

Baktos,
Kang Enduy... 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of urang subang teureuh panjalu
Sent: 04 March 2006 08:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] Re: Arab, Ceuk Batur Kuring (siti rahmah sebatan
kanggo wts)

punten baraya sing ati-ati bilih aya nu kaarab tong atoh lamun disebut siti
rahmah teh margi siti rahmah teh sanes nami atanapi sesebatan kanggo istri
nu asalna ti indonesia atanapi nami panggilan istri/awewe di arab tapi
numutkeun budaya arab nu kapendak kusimkuring dina etnografi arab mah
sesebatan siti rahmah teh kanggo awewe lengger alias wts upami di
indonesiana mah, di arab aya istilah kanggo nyebat wts diantarana siti
rahmah sareng khomsinat nu hartosna khomsinat teh 50 an maksadnamah awewe nu
tiasa dibayar ku artos 50 duka real duka juneh nu jelas mah sanes rupiah da
mata uang diarabmah sanes rupiah sakitu wae cag.

indung peuting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Leres Kang Waluya, leres oge
kang Yudi teu aya anu lepat, santai sajah....Ulah sarius. Si teteh oge
kantos bergaul sareng urang arab sadaya balageur, mung pas upami aurat istri
katingal anjeuna sok nyebat haram siti rahmah. haram siti rahmah. Sadaya
istri indonesia anu munggah haji di sebat siti rahmah Mung kanggo  istri
kedah wanti2 ulah masihan kelet anu mengundang (naon sundana), eta anu
nyababkeun kacilakaan perkosaan. 
  Sapertos conto anu alit upami dikurudung heug katingali sakedik rambutna
(teu rapih) eta sami sareng nangtang lalaki arab. 
   
  Kumargi mas kawin di Arab teh awis seueur lalaki nu teu kabedag kawin ka
wanita arab, nya seueur bujangan tua nyababkaeun lamun  wanita indonesia anu
lumbah-lambeh sok jadi korban pelecehan.Tapi aya oge anu dijantenkeun istri.
  Kitu manawi, sakaterang
   
  ipeut
   
  

Yudi Irmawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hehe henteu kasigeung mah Bah. 
Pedah kaleresan we ti kamari Abah posting perkawis poligami lah,
perkawis sahwat lah ... Padahal mah meureun nu kitu mah aya di saha
wae, lain di urang Arab wungkul. Upami misalna aya topik diskusieun nu
munel mah mangga sugan we aya sasieureun sabeunyeureun tina pangalaman
abdi jeung urang Arab nu henteu salawasna sae. 

Sareng kaleresan pisan kamari ngadamel posting ngeunaan dongeng ieu
yeuh (ka nu kantos maca, punten ngaduakalian):

Kapungkur zaman Dinasti Abasid, di Baghdad aya ulama nu katelah ku
elmuna nu luhung. Hiji waktos tatangga eta ulama hariweuweus manggihan
manehan bari pok: "Akang-akang, bieu kuring ngadenge carita ngeunaan
batur Akang, si anu tea!"

"Heup keheula, samemeh dicaritakeun, Kula aya tilu tanyakeuneun heula.
Mun jawaban ilaing nyugemakeun, karek eta carita bejakeun."
"Euleuh maenya rek ngadongeng wae kudu dites heula?"

"Enya euy, aya alusna mun boga dongeng ngeunaan jelma urang saring
heula samemeh dibuja-beja ka batur."
"Sok atuh."

"Yeuh nu kahiji: naha eta beja teh anjeun geus yakin BENER?"
"Alah duka teuing atuh da eta ge ceuk beja. Kuring oge karek bieu
ngadengena" 

"Kutan? wah atuh balai ieu mah. Sok cikan nu kadua sugan lulus: Naha
nu rek dicaritakeun ku anjeun ngeunaan batur dewek teh HADE?"
"Wah sigana mah henteu euy..."

"Kutan deui? jadi anjeun teh rek nyaritakeun kagorengan batur bari
jeung anjeun teu nyahu beja eta bener atawa henteu? Heueh alus ningan.
Sok atuh sugan nu katilu mah nyugemakeun: Naha carita anjeun teh aya
GUNANA pikeun kula?"

"Leuh, teuing euy, tapi sigana mah henteu."

"Kitu nya! Atuh mun beja nu ku anjeun dengen teh can tangtu BENER,
lain beja nu HADE, tur euweuh GUNA keur kuring; keur naon dibejakeun
tur keur naon kuring nyaho?."
*****
Muhammad (SAW) pernah ditanya "Wahai Rasulullah, apa sebenarnya Ghibah
itu?" "Ghibah itu berkata sesuatu tentang saudaramu yang dia tidak
suka." Beliau ditanya lagi "Bagaimana kalau ianya benar?" "Sekiranya
apa yang kau katakan itu benar engkau telah melakukan ghibah dan
sekiranya kabar itu tidak benar maka engkau telah melakukan fitnah".
[HR Muslim, Abu Daud dan At-Tarmizi]

Baktos
Yudi



--- In [email protected], "waluya56" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ih .... teu pisan-pisan kulan, da ceuk kuring oge dina millis mah 
> sagala diobrolkeun. Sepi atuh teu aya nu posting mah, jeung teu kedah 
> dianggap serieus teuing. Perkawis urang Arab, nembe kuring ngobrol 
> jeung katurunan Arab, Si Said, pagawe Puslitbang Air, malah 
> dibacakeun postingan kuring. Manehna kalahka nyakakak seuri. Kuring 
> mah geus biasa gaul jeung urang Arab (kuturunan), sabab Almarhum Pun 
> Ua carogena urang Arab nu asalna ti Purwakarta.
> 
> Tah perkawis stigma urang Arab kurang hade, pan kuring ge menta 
> klarifikasi, naha leres henteu. Da perkawis ieu teh geus rahasia 
> umum. Teu kedah disumput-salindungkeun. Hubungan urang Arab jeung 
> Urang Sunda, geus lila, tangtuna oge mucunghul prepektif masing-
> masing, boh ti urang sunda ka urang arab atawa sabalikna. Dina 
> Buku "NGalanglang Kasusatraan Sunda", kenging Pa Ayip Rosyidi, 
> dicarioskeun aya sababaraha novel kenging sastrawan2 sunda, nu 
> nyigeung rada miring ka urang Arab.
> 
> Nya upami teu satuju mah, nya atos we teu kedah didiskusikeun, da 
> maksud kuring ge ukur ngobrol pasosore (waktu Indonesia Kulon). 
> Satadina mah kuring teh hayang ngobrol bebas jiga jeung Pak S atawa 
> jeung si Said, bari seuseurian ......
> 
> Punten pisan, upami postingan kuring perkawis urang Arab, nyigeung 
> kang Yudi.
> 
> Baktos,
> WALUYA   
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Yudi Irmawan" <adesae@> wrote:
> >
> > Abdi gaduh sababaraha rerencangan urang Arab. Supervisor abdi urang
> > Arab. Abdi tangtos gaduh pamendak ngeunaan urang Arab. Sateuacanna
> > diwartoskeun kumaha maranehna (sieun bisi ngomongkeun/ ghibah), abdi
> > bade tumaros heula. 
> > 
> > Bade dicandak kamana diskusi ieu teh? Asa ti kamari Bah Willy teh
> > bulak2 balik mosting nu ngagogoreng urang Arab. Aya untungna pikeun
> > urang nyarioskeun kagorengan urang Arab?
> > 
> > Baktos
> > Yudi
> >
>







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