В Птн, 10/06/2005 в 14:28 +0200, Matthew Thomas пишет: > On 9 Jun, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Markus Bertheau wrote: > > > > Dnia 07-06-2005, wto o godzinie 21:50 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > napisał(a): > > ... > >> 1. "Hide" the "Record desktop video" functionality in the popup menu > >> of the Screenshot panel button. You then popup a dialog asking the > >> user where the video should be saved, what type of video (Theora, > >> AVI, mpeg4) it should be saved as and how long (seconds) or > >> unlimited. > > > > Just save it on the desktop and choose a type that works for the user. > > My mom certainly can't educatedly choose between theora, avi and mpeg4. > > I'm also not sure about the usefulness of specifying a number of > > seconds to record. Why do you think it's not enough to hit the stop > > button when you want the recording to end? What user scenario is there > > for that feature? > > Scenario: You're recording a product demo for a Web site. You don't > want a video recording interface to appear in the video, because that > would look unprofessional.
So I guess the question is, who this is going to be for initially. I had (unprofessional) demos of free software in mind, and my mom, who wants to show me what's going wrong when she hits that button. And she's behind a firewall, so vino doesn't work. On the other hand, if the visual clue to find it is big enough, that recording interface could go into the panel. > > Many people also don't have a screenshot panel button, they use the > > iten in the system menu when they want to take a screenshot. Maybe put > > a "Record video of desktop" item there. > > Already it's vaguely amusing that "Take Screenshot" *appears* to be one > of the ~30 most important functions in a Gnome-based operating system, > since it's at the top level of the menus. "Record Video of Desktop" at > the top level would be even funnier. :-) Probably true. I don't have a better idea though. > > ... > > You should probably record to /tmp first and move the file to the > > desktop when recording is done, so that the thumbnailer doesn't run all > > the time and sucks up cpu. (This is a nautilus or whatever bug imho). > > More importantly (especially since the Nautilus bug has been fixed), in > the scenario above, you don't want a video file icon appearing on the > desktop a couple of seconds into the video. That would also look > unprofessional. Agreed. > > ... > >> 2. Modify the screenshot dialog so the user can say "no i don't want a > >> static screenshot, record a video instead". After that, the same > >> workflow follows as described above. I'm not sure this is a good > >> approach since if done incorrectly, you could clutter the screenshot > >> dialog (it's really simple & easy to use atm). > > The only option that doesn't apply to both of them is when to stop > recording, so I don't think separate dialogs are necessary. (And > putting them in the same dialog caters for the person who may be > dithering about whether to take a picture or a video.) Why would a person be dithering about that? > > I think including desktop video functionality in the screenshot dialog > > is a bad idea. What you see after launching the screen shooter does not > > very much resemble a video recorder type of thing. > > ... > > But almost all the useful options are the same. I'd consider that a technical coincidence. > How about this: > ________________________________ ________________________________ > |:::::::::: Screenshot ::::::::::| |:::::::::: Screenshot ::::::::::| > | | | | > | (*) Take a picture | | ( ) Take a picture | > | ( ) Record a video | | (*) Record a video | > | | | | > | Of what: [active window :^] | | Of what: [active window :^] | > | Format: [PNG :^] | | Format: [Ogg Theora :^] | > | ( Options... ) | | ( Options... ) | > | | | | > | To take another picture with | | To record another video with | > | these settings, type Alt+<foo>.| | these settings, type Alt+<bar>.| > | | | | > | Take shot: [after 2 seconds:^] | | Start: [after 2 seconds:^] | > | | | Stop: (*) after [ 10]H s | > | ( Cancel ) (( OK )) | | ( ) when I type | > |________________________________| | Alt+<hum> | > | | > | ( Cancel ) (( OK )) | > |________________________________| GNOME tries to label buttons with what happens when you click them. And that's a problem here, since you either record a video or take a picture, and I guess a11y will oppose against dynamically changing the button label. Also this dialog would make it two steps to a screenshot instead of one, as it is now. As I said above, my mom doesn't know about PNG and Ogg Theora. That's the question about the target group again. We got along without options for the current screenshooter, too. Markus -- Markus Bertheau ☭ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Usability mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
