On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 20:29 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Lennart Borgman wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:00:31 +0200 > > From: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Usability] Using Control-Esc and Windows keys to access the > > start menu > > > > Hi, > > > > I am new to this list. I have subscribed mainly because I want to become > > a GNU/Linux user. > > (Gnome runs on FreeBSD and Solaris and many others too. I want to be a > Gnome user.) > > > Now I installed Ubuntu. Quite nice installation as far as I know. > > However when the installation was finished I was not able to do > > anything. I had no mouse at all on that computer. > > Ubuntu does make some customisations beyond stock Gnome so do keep that in > mind. I am very displeased at how they removed the Run Dialog (they hid > it away making it totally undiscoverable but if you are lucky enough to > arleady know Alt+F2 it is still available). > afaik, gnome removed run dialog during there over-simplification process. aargh :(
> > I tried Control-Esc and the Windows keys to access the start menu, > > If I recall correctly this used to work when Gnome had the old layout more > like windows with a main/start menu in the bottom left corner. Novell is > one of the few distributions to go back to this kind of layouts and I > would hope they got the keybinding right too but you would need to try > yourself to be sure. (I tried adding back the main menu applet to the > lower panel on Ubuntu but Ctrl+Esc doesn't work.) > > > but none of them worked. I would really appreciate if they do. Is there > > any reason that they should not work the same way as on MS Windows? > > Would not that attract MS Windows users? > > In ubuntu if you go to System, Preferences, Keyboard shortcuts you can > reassign the shortcut for the Application menu to be Ctrl+Escape or the > the Super key (aka Windows Key). I was not able to add the menu menu > applet and assign the keybinding to it instead. > > There are all kinds of things we could do the same and I personally prefer > it when developers embrace and extend and can confidently say they are > doing "the same or better, not just different". > > Rather than get into it too much I use the level of disagreement in this > very discussion to show you how difficult it is to build conscensus on an > issue. Also there is the fundamental problem that we must design Gnome so > that it can be used on keyboard that do not have a Super key. (Granted > you did also mention Ctrl+Esc.) > > > PS: This is my second try with GNU/Linux. The last time I backed off for > > exactly the same reason. > > Things are going to be different, and some have argued that trying too > hard to copy windows only makes the differences more painfully obvious. > > Sometimes it is better for Gnome to be interntally consistent and > predictable within itself rather than copying. However if enough people > wanted to we could probably have it both ways and make it easier to do > what you want. > > > Well, and that the dual boot that came with Ubuntu trashed my MS Windows > > partition. > > Backups are the only answer, depending on your circumstances either Ubuntu > or Windows could have been the problem. I also had to learn the hard way > how easy it is to shoot onself in the foot with partition tools and more. > > I would strongly advise you to try out VMWare Player, by far the safest > way I can think of to try distribtions like Ubuntu. In particular there > is one VMWare image I really like which allows you to try out Live CD > based distributions without needing to burn them to a CD. This allows me > to try out many more distributions beyond those especially packages for > VMware. > > Sincerely > > Alan Horkan > > Inkscape http://inkscape.org > Abiword http://www.abisource.com > Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org > > Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ > > _______________________________________________ > Usability mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability -- Ritesh Khadgaray LinuX N Stuff Ph: +919822394463 Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. _______________________________________________ Usability mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
