Sand Which

On 10/10/19 1:18 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote:
Yes!

We need a cool name like that, too.
Code32
MoreMojave
CantLetGo
TimeScope
macWrap32
32Palms
Wrap32with64
DoubleMy32
Sand

It looks like I can't come up with anything as cool as WineBottler

Dar Scott



On Oct 10, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Richmond via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

This sounds a bit like WineBottler:

http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/

On 10.10.19 20:48, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote:
Being a mad scientist causes my mind to wander. I implied some sort of 
application that would take a 32-bit macOS app and turn it into a 64-bit app 
suitable for delivering to customers in the interim. But I gave solutions only 
for a sophisticated user to run 32-bit applications from Catalina (or so) 
desktop.

My immediate thoughts: Bundles might make a conversion for the macOS easier. 
Dependent 32-bit dynamic libraries would have to be moved into a folder in the 
bundle, and file I/O will do redirection. The app's program would be moved and 
replaced with something else that uses some sort of hyper-something to catch 
the INTs or that will use ptrace() as a debugger would. In the latter case the 
INTs might need to be translated statically by the converter. I have not made a 
modern debugger, tracer or hyper-thing, so I'm just guessing.

Dar

On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Mad scientist indeed! ;-)

Bob S


On Oct 9, 2019, at 16:59 , Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Oh. That looks hard. I don't even know how to take control of the 0x80 
interrupt.

However, here are some ideas for alternatives.

Virtual

Parallels has Coherence; Virtual Box has Seamless Mode; VMware has Unity. (I 
don't use these, so check out what I say.) The capability is roughly the same. 
You can run an application on a client OS in a window on the host. So, if you 
have an older macOS running on a virtual machine that can run your app, you can 
set things up so that you can double-click on your desktop and run a 32-bit app.

Real

Another method is to set up little "servers" you can remote into. For example, 
instead of upgrading to Catalina on your old Mac Mini, get a new Mac Mini with Catalina 
and remote desktop into the old Mac Mini. Or have a Mac that is running several virtual 
machines you can remote into (use memory ballooning to share it well). The Apple EULA has 
constraints, but I think this is OK.

Now, what if you can run an app on a remote machine like Coherence/Unity/SM? 
You can readily run a single app in a window for a linux server using several 
programs such as nomachine and (I think) xpra. But I don't know about macOS. 
Maybe you can make a single-window app full screen and adjust the size of the 
client window. I haven't tried this.

Dar Scott
Mad Scientist

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