Hi Kevin, Thanks for acknowledging that you received it!
I will compile a video of the problems, but will happily schedule a zoom and talk about some other things as well. I should have a video compiled within 1 week, since i'll still be using it all week long. Thanks Kevin, Tom On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:07 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What I liked about your email to me Tom was that it was extremely > specific. You had just a handful of issues you considered absolutely key > and offered to Zoom to show that to me. I look forward to scheduling that > once I finish getting unburried __ > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Develop Yourself > > On 02/09/2021, 22:59, "use-livecode on behalf of Tom Glod via > use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Lagi, > > I wrote to Kevin earlier and gave the exact same advice. those exact 2 > points needing to be addressed. > > Give long trial, fix the most obvious IDE issues ASAP. > > Without those two things how is any new developer going to join the > platform? > > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 5:34 PM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Trials of 14 days or even 30 days are a waste of time. I can install > > something and use it for a couple of days - then life / work gets in > the > > way > > so It sits on the computer for 31 days and then times out. > > > > You then have to waste your time and the companies to get an > extension, > > and by the time they answer > > you get cheesed off and remove the program. > > > > The BEST trial is the one that lasts for 30 actual executions or 6 > months > > (whichever comes first). > > > > This stops the clever SOD who decides to keep it running without > exiting > > for 6 months but it times out anyway. > > Even better if he keeps it on for 2 days it counts as "executing" > twice so > > it will last 30 days. > > > > This means I have 30 days over a 6 month period to really test it > without > > rushing. > > > > The people who would game the system are the people who won't be > loyal > > customer anyway, so not giving a worthwhile trial period handicaps > those > > who want to give it a good try. > > > > You can also put a nag screen at the start of any executable with > an OK > > button link to a special discounted price - free marketing (what a > > brilliant Idea, why didn't I think of it?). > > > > But the best way of selling it is to FIX the bloody IDE - I am > running on a > > 16G 1 year Old 8th Generation CoreI7 processor and it STILL runs > like > > treacle. > > > > If I downloaded it today as a new person it would be off my machine > in less > > than 30 minutes. > > > > You could also use this as your "marketing" system by "giving it > away" to > > schools for nothing and without the trial period but the nag screen. > > > > It can then be used by the students to learn programming at no cost > - and > > some of the students parent might pony up for a paid for version at a > > student price (with no expiring standalones of cours - the most > stupid idea > > of the lot so far) > > > > > > Anyway Kevin, have I/we wastedour time again putting out these > cranky, > > stupid and not workable suggestions?. > > > > Lagi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 15:55, Kevin Miller via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > We *are* considering the length of the trial actively, we may well > give a > > > longer trial a shot at some point. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > > > LiveCode: Develop Yourself > > > > > > On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via > > > use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > True, true. > > > > > > There could be a small group of programmers that pass a stack > around > > > but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a > > > programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any > other > > > supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. > I > > would > > > not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an > option. > > > > > > Ralph DiMola > > > IT Director > > > Evergreen Information Services > > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: use-livecode [mailto: > use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > > > Behalf Of Kevin Miller via use-livecode > > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2021 10:31 AM > > > To: How to use LiveCode > > > Cc: Kevin Miller; Michael Kristensen > > > Subject: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition > > > > > > Thanks for the constructive suggestion. Unfortunately with a > free > > > non-app building version, everyone who needs to run an app can just > > > download that. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > > > LiveCode: Develop Yourself > > > > > > On 02/09/2021, 14:49, "use-livecode on behalf of Michael > Kristensen > > > via use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on > behalf of > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community > Edition > > > > > > That would be for personal use, and to learn coding. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > -- > > KIndest Regards Lagi > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > -- > Tom Glod > Founder & Developer > MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) > Mobile:647.562.9411 > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Mobile:647.562.9411 _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
