even if the same person asks the same question, multiple times, the answers will vary, so don't be surprised.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 2:35 AM Kaveh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > ChatGPT clearly likes me more that you. ;-) At least I have one friend!!! > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 06:28, Torsten Holmer via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I also used chatGPT for looking uo code and I repeated your question. But > > this time chatGPT gives a wrong answer! > > > > —chatGPT: > > You will need to specify the group that the button should be added to by > > setting the group property of the button. The syntax for this is as > follows: > > set the group of button [name of button] to [name of group] > > > > For example, if you wanted to create a button called "myButton" and add > it > > to a group called "myGroup", you would use the following script: > > > > create button "myButton“ > > > > set the group of button "myButton" to "myGroup" > > > > create button "myButton“ > > set the group of button "myButton" to „myGroup" > > --- > > > > It is an error because group is not a property of a button! > > So, really be careful with copy&paste programming ;-) > > > > Cheers > > Torsten > > > > > > > > > Am 14.01.2023 um 22:14 schrieb Kaveh via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > > > I just tried Google to the answer to a problem. Didn't get it first > time, > > > so tried ChatGPT. I asked: > > > > > > *How do I add a button to a group in LiveCode using a script?* > > > > > > I got: > > > > > > *create button "myButton" in group "myGroup"* > > > > > > > > > *This command creates a new button object with the name "myButton" and > > > places it inside the group "myGroup".* > > > Just what I needed. > > > > > > You can also set properties of the button > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 at 20:09, Mark Smith via use-livecode < > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks for posting this Geoff. It’s the first time I've seen a ongoing > > >> dialog between a programmer and Chat GPT and the first thing I am > > struck by > > >> (but not the only thing) is it’s ability to deal with human ambiguity. > > For > > >> example, you ask it to modify the code to be an “on mouseUp handler > in a > > >> button". But nowhere in its response is there any sign of a button. It > > just > > >> totally ignored that part of your request. The code it provides works > > in a > > >> card, a stack, a graphic image, an svg widget, in fact, in anything > that > > >> accepts mouseUp input. And yet, it didn’t worry itself about that. > Very > > >> interesting. It’s kind of like, “this works in a button, so good > > enough”. > > >> That is not the kind of “nuance” I am used to expecting from an AI. > So, > > >> progress has clearly been made in interpreting what humans say (or > ask) > > in > > >> a very loose way. > > >> > > >> The 2nd, and perhaps more astounding example, is when you ask it to > > >> "rewrite the code to be a function that takes an argument "n", repeats > > with > > >> 1 to n, and returns the results”. > > >> > > >> The really clever bit here is not that it rewrites the previous code > > into > > >> a function, but that it removes the bit about "put fizzbin into field > > >> “display””. How does it know that putting the result in a field is NOT > > the > > >> typical responsibility of a function? How does it know that that step > > needs > > >> to occur AFTER the function call? That is so high-level that I am sure > > lots > > >> of beginning programmers have made that mistake. It even comments on > it > > in > > >> the documentation. So there is some very deep semantic understanding > of > > >> programming code that is going on here. Because, you did not ask it > to > > do > > >> that, but the fact that it did it anyway indicates it clearly > > understands > > >> what the purpose of a function is. > > >> > > >> Quite weird for me to comprehend how it knows that. Unless of course, > > you > > >> were somehow more specific than your examples illustrate. > > >> > > >> Mark > > >> > > >>> On 14 Jan 2023, at 3:22 am, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> So just now I put this in to chatgpt: > > >>> > > >>> "fizz bin" is a program that counts from 1 to 100, replacing every > > number > > >>> divisible by 5 with "fizz" and every number divisible by 7 with > "bin"; > > >> and > > >>> numbers divisible by both 5 and 7 with "fizz bin". Write code in the > > >>> programming language livecode to execute "fizz bin" > > >>> > > >>> This is what ChatGPT responded with: > > >>> > > >>> repeat with x = 1 to 100 > > >>> if x mod 5 = 0 and x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz bin" > > >>> else if x mod 5 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz" > > >>> else if x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "bin" > > >>> else > > >>> put x > > >>> end if > > >>> end repeat > > >>> > > >>> That works as-is, but obviously the results fly by in the message > box. > > >> So I > > >>> put a field and a button on a card, and edited to this, and it works > > >>> perfectly: > > >>> > > >>> on mouseUp > > >>> repeat with x = 1 to 100 > > >>> if x mod 5 = 0 and x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz bin" & cr after fld 1 > > >>> else if x mod 5 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz" & cr after fld 1 > > >>> else if x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "bin" & cr after fld 1 > > >>> else > > >>> put x & cr after fld 1 > > >>> end if > > >>> end repeat > > >>> end mouseUp > > >>> > > >>> Then as I was typing this email I realized I was potentially selling > > >>> chatgpt short, so I put this in: > > >>> > > >>> Modify that code so it works as an "on mouseUp" handler in a button, > > and > > >>> concatenates the results on individual lines, and puts the final > result > > >>> into the field "display" > > >>> > > >>> And it output this: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> on mouseUp > > >>> put "" into fizzbin > > >>> repeat with x = 1 to 100 > > >>> if x mod 5 = 0 and x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz bin" & return after fizzbin > > >>> else if x mod 5 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz" & return after fizzbin > > >>> else if x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "bin" & return after fizzbin > > >>> else > > >>> put x & return after fizzbin > > >>> end if > > >>> end repeat > > >>> put fizzbin into field "display" > > >>> end mouseUp > > >>> > > >>> And it followed that with instructions: > > >>> > > >>> This code uses the "on mouseUp" handler to execute the script when > the > > >>> button is clicked. The results are concatenated and separated by a > new > > >> line > > >>> using the "& return" operator after each output. The final result is > > >> placed > > >>> into a field with the name "display" using the "put" command. > > >>> > > >>> I'll save you the trouble: that code executes perfectly right out of > > the > > >>> box, with no errors, and of course even though I didn't ask it to, it > > >> uses > > >>> a variable to store the intermediate values, saving the field update > > for > > >>> the end. > > >>> > > >>> If I were writing it, I'd probably do something like > > >>> > > >>> on mouseUp > > >>> put "" into fizzbin > > >>> repeat with x = 1 to 100 > > >>> if x mod 5 = 0 then put "fizz " after fizzbin > > >>> if x mod 7 = 0 then put "bin " after fizzbin > > >>> if char -1 of fizzbin is space > > >>> then put return into char -1 of fizzbin > > >>> else put x & return after fizzbin > > >>> end repeat > > >>> put fizzbin into field "display" > > >>> end mouseUp > > >>> > > >>> That might be a bit faster, but probably not as clear. > > >>> > > >>> Finally, I gave it the input: > > >>> > > >>> Now rewrite the code to be a function named "fizzbin" that takes an > > >>> argument "n", repeats with 1 to n, and returns the results. > > >>> > > >>> function fizzbin n > > >>> put "" into fizzbin > > >>> repeat with x = 1 to n > > >>> if x mod 5 = 0 and x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz bin" & return after fizzbin > > >>> else if x mod 5 = 0 then > > >>> put "fizz" & return after fizzbin > > >>> else if x mod 7 = 0 then > > >>> put "bin" & return after fizzbin > > >>> else > > >>> put x & return after fizzbin > > >>> end if > > >>> end repeat > > >>> return fizzbin > > >>> end fizzbin > > >>> > > >>> This works perfectly, and chat gpt also documents its answer: > > >>> > > >>> This code defines a function named "fizzbin" which takes an argument > > "n" > > >>> that determines the range of the repeat loop. 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