Gentlemen,
Allow me to join this conversation since you’re discussing AI and
LiveCode (more or less).
A few months ago, I expressed my disappointment with how poorly most
major AI tools handled LiveCode. This seems to have changed: the latest
versions of ChatGPT and Gemini appear to know much more about LiveCode
than they did before. I imagine this is thanks to LiveCode Ltd.’s
efforts to feed these AIs with information about our beloved programming
language.
Nowadays, AI is helping me a lot with LiveCode scripts — I’m even
learning things I didn’t know before.
For now, I’m still using the GPL version of LiveCode, as it works well
on both Windows and Linux, and I use it for various internal company
applications.
Unfortunately, it has stopped working on newer versions of macOS (Apple
Silicon) and on the latest versions of Red Hat and its derivatives (due
to Red Hat discontinuing the Xorg server in favor of Wayland).
Three months ago, I developed a very small commercial app for Android
and iOS using Flutter, assisted by AI. The app worked, and the client is
happy — but ultimately, I wasn’t happy selling something I didn’t fully
understand, whose programming details sometimes eluded me. I prefer
LiveCode, because I know exactly what every line of code does.
AI is great: it now allows me to program better not only in LiveCode but
in virtually any programming language. Still, in the end, you’re working
with “black boxes” that you don’t really understand unless you’re a very
skilled, multilingual programmer — and that’s a bit unsettling.
TL;DR: ChatGPT and Gemini are now quite good at generating LiveCode code
(with some nuances and tweaks).
Hery
On 7/23/25 09:46, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
what up, curry?
* on the LC side:
i am not paying stupid money per year for every mobile device we deploy to.
i'm also not a fan of web-based rad tools. so unless something changes
wildly, we're SO out. disappointed, and annoyed, and out. i'm not going to
hold on, hoping that something is going to change. imagine paying hundreds
to deploy your own apps to your own devices, every year, when you could
rewrite them in swift, KMP, React Native, or flutter.
* on the IDE side:
the IDE's are all in motion, all the time. at the moment, VSC is good
enough.
i don't love any of the mobile frameworks. flutter has been the best one
for us, so far. KMP is behind on multi-platform. the guys are screwing
around with swift on android. we'll see what they think.
who knows, maybe in a month or fifteen we'll just code x-platform ASM via
prompts, and that'll be the end of that.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 3:40 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
Mike:
> because the announced 2027 lc pricing forced me to start looking
> for alternatives. using llm's, i was able to quickly write four
> good-enough apps in flutter. then i was able to generate similar
> apps with an llm in delphi, and xojo.
Which IDE worked out best for your apps?
(Or would LC Community help until pricing/terms improve?)
Best wishes,
Curry Kenworthy
"Dominate documents with WordLib and LC"
https://livecodeaddons.com/wordlib.html
(Still recuperating from illness - comments delayed.)
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