Aloha, Colin:

noborder -- 14:9


OK this is useful... just so we are on the same page... "center safe" refers to the dimensions of the entire screen...right? I need to bring this down to actual numbers and my head hearts if we stay too theoretical.

Any "live matter margins" (as we say in the graphic design for print world) are a matter of UI preference/design and not part of this discussion-- probably best it is not, and we stick with "available screen space" for this discussion. What the inset margin for elements should be is very subjective depending on the GUI or "story book scene."

So, let me feed this back to you another way, to test my understanding:

BOTTOM LINE (?):

If we use a ratio of 14:9 (landscape) or 9:14 (portrait) and we design *all* content at that ratio.. using "noborder" in LC -- it will always fill all screens. Right?

If so, that would be an excellent choice as then we have a single rect with "inset margins for elements per your design requierments" I like that -- simple.


REAL NUMBERS DETAIL:

Side note: Adobe defaults to 36 pixels inset margins. If you create a new doc for "digital publication" which is just their way of saying "1/2 inch" which they do in the print apps (where the assumed dpi is 72, which or course is a meaningless and arbitrary number today that doesn't really speak to anything "real").

for 2X design:

(Apple requires 3X for splash screens... seems overkill to me and just adds weight to the package)

for 2X then the discussion with my content development team(s) goes like this: "OK guys when you open a new doc, (photoshop, illustrator, InDesign) set your document size to: 1288p wide x 828 tall for landscape or 828p x 1228p high for portrait. Remember that the edges will be the edge of the screen on different devices so inset your live matter elements accordingly if you don't want them butting right up to the edge of some screens, top and bottom on iPads or left and right edges on later 16:9 phones "

For artists on physical media, that later gets scanned, (animated characters) working on US Letter (8.5 X 11) we tell them: "Please target a 11"w x 7" high canvas. Draw on your ltr sized page landscape: sideways: you can fill the whole 11 inches left to right, but you only have 7 inches top to bottom (this is a 14:9 space) So draw a top border at 3/4 from the top edge of your pad and 3/4 from the bottom edge. Remember, these will be the edges of the screen and so you must fill the whole thing with background art/texture but if you don't want some elements too close to the edge, then inset them by 1/2 inch. If you like to work on large format media (art pads) just make sure you are working in 14:9 ratio, if you don't know what that is take your width in inches, divide by 14 and then multiply by 9 to get your height"

Some artists don't pay attention to this at all, they open a new document, not thinking one whit about it's size or dimensions, I need to get ahead of that with this spec.

Sorry to be verbose, but I have actual artwork in progress as we speak... so need to get out in front of this with well articulated requirements.

Of course we can just test drive that here... but others' experience, is helpful.

BR

Colin Holgate wrote:
With showall, all of the content would appear on all screens, and extra content 
would appear on wider or taller screens (if you have content off the edges of 
the card area). Although noborder can be used to achieve the same results as 
showall (by dictating a maximum width or height), it can be very useful if you 
have a center safe14:9  area. That way16:9  users just lose a little bit off 
the top and bottom, and4:3  users only lose little off the left and right. With 
showall, or noborder used in a similar way, you’re having to eat into more of 
either the height or width.


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