Thanks Jacque and Richard. 

That will do the trick, except that while the vertical works, the horizontal 
does not. By that I mean I can expand the size of the stack and the top and 
bottom items do not change, but if I expand the stack sideways the right DOES 
change. Further, the left always reports -1. 

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:26 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> The formattedRect of the card accounts for object visibility.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin


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