On 8/3/17 6:33 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
I don't see it that way. Apple has a choice to adhere to China's laws or no.

Well, money almost always talks louder than either morals or anything else.

  China has a choice to allow the sale of Apple products in their country.

"Vhina" has NO choice at all; the Heads of the Brutal, Repressive Communist Party who do NOT
properly represent the population of China have a choice.


The world is full of totalitarian states, and the populations there also have a 
choice: To live with their present situation, or to revolt.

Well, it's a good thing people didn't feel like that during the Second World War or half of us would be living under Hitler's ghost and the other half of us would be ash.

Despotic machines are often so efficient (cf. North Korea) that no one could revolt even if they wanted to.

Cf. The Hungarian Uprising, the Prague Spring in Czechoslovakia, and so on.

As you have never lived in a totalitarian state you have never had to deal with the reality of that, and stating that people either have to "live with their present situation, or to revolt" betrays a singular
lack of understanding re the nature of totalist states.

I suppose despots start out wanting to make the world, or at least their world "a 
better place",

Very rarely; they just want the raw power and the "choccy-bikkies".

  but as I always say, the devil is in the details.

Bob S

Richmond.


On Aug 2, 2017, at 13:07 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Apple's EULA may not actually be legal or legally enforcable in a large number 
of territories
where this Use-List is read.

Just seen Tim Cook "sucking the kneecaps" of China's one-party state's leaders and 
blethering anent "adhering to the law" re VPNs.

I, at least, am well aware of what constitutes "a law" and what constitutes "ruling by decree"; and everyone should be made aware of that
important distinction.

Nothing makes me despise anyone more than trying to justify adherence to laws 
of a totalitarian state.

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