Lagi , I'm in. Let me know how to help.

I don't "Share" EVER. I don't even have(and never will if I can avoid it) a FB 
account.... But here it is for what it's worth:

I was working for a major bank in the 80s. I was in Tokyo and I started a 
backup and used the current tape instead of the previous tape(that had not had 
a backup written to it yet). The backup was just starting when the hard drive 
failed. I'll never forget the image engrained in my mind of going back to the 
hotel and the programmer who had been working on this for a couple of months 
holding his plate with a steak on it at the door while I told him all the code 
was lost. I was using one tape and decided to do an a/b set so this would not 
happen but screwed up. I was thinking of going to the roof of the Akasaka 
Prince hotel and.... Well I relaxed and addressed it. Everyone understood(as 
much as could be expected) and we all pulled together and I was able to dump 
some of the raw data off the drive and get back some of the code. The 
programmer re-wrote the rest of it eliminating the spaghetti code. And the 
higher ups worked with us to deflect much of the fire. Our app was on those big 
screens on Tokyo Stock Exchange floor so you can imagine the pressure of the 
world's financial markets on your shoulders. Cooler heads prevailed and I came 
out the other side with a few bruises but better off in the long run. A better 
product and a lesson well learned.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services

-----Original Message-----
From: use-livecode [] On Behalf Of 
Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 12:59 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Lagi Pittas
Subject: Re: URGENT: MergGoogle no longer works on iOS: CLIENTS VERY UNHAPPY

Hi All

I just setup a gofundme site - Never done it before but Can anyone tell me do 
we have to put Sean's name on it - what shall I call the page?

Talk like that makes me shiver. I have a mate in Canada - he had his   card
account and paypal compromised a week or  so ago - rent was due no money so I 
Paypald him a large chunk of what I had put aside for my income tax
- I have a few months to sort that situation out - but he hadn't - and his 
situation wasn't as bad as Sean's. We need to do this for Sean and his family - 
I'm sure the work he has put in will come out for the best in the end - 
Otherwise Sean just post your paypal address here - every little helps.

Kindest Regards Lagi

On 2 May 2018 at 17:42, prothero--- via use-livecode <> wrote:

> Sean,
> I’ve seen you on this list, and the Director list for years. You have 
> been someone whose kind responses and help have been very appreciated. 
> Please know that there are many people who care about you and wish you the 
> best.
> Please take a deep breath and don’t do anything that you haven’t had 
> time to consider carefully. Perspectives often change with time.
> Best wishes and I’m so sorry for your situation, which sucks big time.
> FYI, I had a biopsy in November, which resulted in a 3 mo hospital 
> stay where I nearly left this life. Shit happens to us and we hope to 
> come out of it a little bit wiser. For me, I gained a lot of awareness 
> of Friends who cared for me. I’m still in physical therapy and getting 
> back to bike riding, outrigger canoe paddling, and my previous life. 
> Consequences of some of these random events eventually disappear and 
> we hope something is learned.
> Best wishes and peace, brother,
> Bill
> William Prothero
> > On May 2, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
>> wrote:
> >
> > Whatever, Sean. Please don't even consider suicide.
> > You can recover from this.
> >
> > There will be more ( and more forgiving ) clients ahead for you.
> >
> > Hopefully you own your code and can fix and repurpose it for 
> > something
> else.
> > You have the possibility, with Monte's help in the morning, to get 
> > this thing working.
> > Your clients or client's clients should understand this happening 
> > was NOT YOUR FAULT and you would gladly fix it.
> > If these 'clients' don't understand this - then they don't deserve 
> > your work in the first place...
> >
> > personally I've had a few of these disasters myself in 50 years of tech.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> >
> > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode < 
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> It's all too too too late. I had no money to get a support contract.
> Spent
> >> it all getting the project running. It was working up until this
> morning so
> >> I had no idea that it would be an issue. My client was incredibly 
> >> p'd. I have no way to redeem myself. I really couldn't care less if 
> >> you can or cannot fix it now. I am £1000's down and well out of 
> >> pocket. I will
> never
> >> get it back. I have/will-have lost everything. I don't think I can 
> >> come back from this. My life is worth £0, especially to you guys. 
> >> I'm like abandon-ware. Your failure cost someone their life (not to 
> >> mention his
> wife
> >> and two boys who may well miss him but will be better off without 
> >> him
> for
> >> making the mistake of using LC and all things LC!).
> >>
> >> Bye
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 May 2018 at 16:29, Kevin Miller via use-livecode < 
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Sean,
> >>>
> >>> I¹m very sorry to hear your demo went wrong today.
> >>>
> >>> If its any consolation I¹ve been there and probably most of us 
> >>> have
> been
> >>> in that situation at some point in our careers. Even Steve Jobs 
> >>> had the occasional demo that didn¹t work out! How you recover from 
> >>> that
> situation
> >>> is probably more important than the fact that it happened. Most
> customers
> >>> and clients understand that tech demos are fraught with potential
> issues
> >>> and will accept that if you can keep a level head and talk to 
> >>> them. One
> >> of
> >>> the techniques I have for doing demos - in common with many in 
> >>> this industry - is to practice the whole thing 3 times the day 
> >>> before from beginning to end. As this change occurred 20th April 
> >>> that would have
> >> given
> >>> us a few hours to respond Š rather than it being ³too late² now.
> >>>
> >>> Could we have done a better job here? Possibly. We have hundreds 
> >>> and hundreds of components in LiveCode and we generally try to 
> >>> maintain compatibility within a couple of weeks of major upgrades and 
> >>> changes.
> For
> >>> whatever reason this change wasn¹t flagged by the processes we use 
> >>> to
> >> stay
> >>> on top here - and as a result we can review that process going forward.
> >> At
> >>> present Monte is asleep - yes even he needs sleep sometimes - and 
> >>> as he wrote this component we really need him to chime in here and 
> >>> take a
> look
> >>> at what needs to be updated.
> >>>
> >>> Generally its faster post to support than this list, though we do
> require
> >>> a support contract in place to help you. Nonetheless given how
> important
> >>> this is for you we will look at this issue when Monte gets up.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>> Kevin Miller ~ ~
> >>> LiveCode: Develop Yourself
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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