manuel companys wrote:



Le Wednesday, 25 Dec 2002, � 12:10 US/Central, Gernot Lorenz a �crit :

Am Montag, 23.12.02 um 15:11 Uhr schrieb Andre Rombauts:

I�ve been learning Rev for several months but to really go
�inside� I would need an �in-depth-tutorial�. This is quite
different from all othe programing environment I used in the
past (Basic, Visual Basic, Pascal � I�m just a 50 y old
teacher who started with computer in the 80�). How to organize
stacks, to use externals and plugins (not really sure to
understand the difference), etc. Revolution is so �huge�...
Will we get a good tutorial book?...

Andr�




Dear Andr�,
I'm nearly in the same situation like You (I used in the past
(Basic, Visual Basic, Pascal � I�m just a 50 y old teacher who
started with computer in the 80�) with the difference that I'am an
experienced User of Hypercardt - the anchestor of MetaCard and
Revolution - which only exists for MacOS. But now, with
platform-independent MetaCard and/or Revolution (which are nearly
the ssame) I have a tool which fits better to our school's
situation (we have a MacOS computer lab and a Windows computer
lab). My pupils are beginners in programming, about 16 years old,
and there is absolutely no book about MetaCard or Revolution for
them , even not an English one (I need one in German). For
Hypercard, , there were enough good books (also in German
language), but Hypercard is to much different.
What to do ?
During the last three months I began myself to make a suitable
book (or booklet) for learning programming (rather than
multimedia-authoring) with MetaCard and Revolution, which will be
used as a book for beginners or pupils.
Like You I would like to have additionally an �in-depth-tutorial�
to avoid many experiments, but there is nothing on the market.
But nevertheless I am interested in what You are doing with Your
pupils ?
What would You expect from school-book for beginners ?
I would be glad to hear from You something about working with
Metacard/Revolution in school.

Gernot


My case is more like Gernot's; except that I am much older and I used HyperCard not to teach how to program but to teach languages and linguistics., I have written a lot of HC "didacticiels" as we say in french: general phonetics; japaneese tons; german verbs; tamil scripts; russian text comprehension; spanish; french; quizz in general linguistics; language performance level ... and so on. This also means that I came accross special character and keyboard problems: fonts; accents, KCHR resources; etc.

Now I am retired and struggling for trying to port some of theese HyperCard Stacks to R-R, I guess I am likely to get more benefits from your help than the other way around. But maybe some of the tricks I found out could be useful to you as well.
Dear Manuel Companys,
thank You for Your mail. I think, soon the time will come I will ask You some help. I often find myself thinking in Hypercard while working with MetaCard oder Revolution, and so many things are different, for example handling the background, which has in Hypercard a totally different function.
If You are trying to convert HC-Stacs to RunRev or Metacard, then try
http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html

Salut
Gernot

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