On Donnerstag, Dezember 26, 2002, at 03:29  Uhr, manuel companys wrote:

Le Wednesday, 25 Dec 2002, � 12:10 US/Central, Gernot Lorenz a �crit :

Am Montag, 23.12.02 um 15:11 Uhr schrieb Andre Rombauts:

I�ve been learning Rev for several months but to really go �inside� I would need an �in-depth-tutorial�.

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Will we get a good tutorial book?...
Dear Andr�,
I'm nearly in the same situation like You
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Like You I would like to have additionally an �in-depth-tutorial� to avoid many experiments, but there is nothing on the market.

Gernot

My case is more like Gernot's; except that I am much older and I used HyperCard not to teach how to program but to teach languages and linguistics.,

But maybe some of the tricks I found out could be useful to you as well.
Hello to all of this thread...
Caution: here comes an idea...
I m not in the position of teaching but I m doing special mulitimedia apps for self learning.
I had (seems still have) no idea about scripting. But Rev is the the only crossplatform tool to do this, and thats very important for my project. So I had to learn it!! At least the basics to do what I need. But there is so much more potential...
And... there is nearly nothing for beginners.
And... for beginners which have no idea of programming/scripting, there is less than nothing.
And... for beginners which have no idea of programming/scripting with nativ language german, except from Maltes workshop, there is less than less...

I had to struggle a lot to understand what of this example scripts (here) is xtalk (HC/MC/Rev)-specific and whats general programming. (I went to hell and back...=:o()
BUT... some time ago I found a very nice book for learning:
Programmieren spielend gelernt mit dem Java Hamster Modell (Dietrich Boles)
It is not a Java-only learning book it uses a subset of Java to show that programming is much more than learning a language...
The big point of it: Every line is well documented, And there are flowchart and pics of every script... (that helps also right brained persons to understand better, than text-only explications could do...

And now the idea.
What we need is:
Programmieren spielend gelernt mit dem Revolution Hamster (or frog, turtle, etc...) modell.

The author is professor of german university
I think you (we) could contact him and make a suggestion of collaborating (coauthoring) adapt, or writing together with him or some of his students a version of his book for rev...
http://www-is.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~dibo/hamster/

On the list are some great german speaking rev/MC gurus and/or malt drinkers;).. so if one of them could help a bit than maybe we get a great thing to learn rev...

Just an idea; what do you -everybody here on the list is invited to- think about it..?

regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter

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