Hi KC,

People who refer to PowerPoint, Excel, Pages, Keynote, Filemaker, and other applications just aren't familiar with XCode because they are no die-hard programmers. They don't know that all those objects they would like to see in Revolution, such as real table objects, are readily available in XCode and .Net. People who are asking "why doesn't this work like in...?" really have a point.

XCode and Visual <put language here> are really neat development environments, compared with MPW, ZBasic, MS Basic, QuickBasic, Think Pascal, Think C, etc. I'd expect the typical school boy or girl to be able to learn all the ins and outs of nowadays development environments during summer holidays, just like I did with HyperCard 20 years ago.

20 years ago, we saw people drawing a silly puppet on a card and adding one non-working button and releasing their "programme". Having no internet, people thought they were doing cool stuff and since HyperCard was the only environment of its kind, they were actually doing pretty cool stuff, even if their software didn't work.

Nowadays, no right-minded school boy or girl would ever release an XCode project with just a picture and a non-working button, because this is obviously uncool. Times have changed.

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On 29 jun 2008, at 02:45, Kay C Lan wrote:

I tend to agree with this, but on the other hand I don't.

Sometimes I read posts here about people wanting better this, or better that, and usually they make a reference to some app like; 'it's been in
FileMaker for years, like Excel has, similar to PowerPoint, just like
iTunes, etc etc'. This is worse than comparing chalk to cheese. I rarely see any 'I want x,y or x, just like Xcode, or name your favourite development environment.' I don't know, I've never really done much with Xcode, but I imagine creating a table that works just like Excel probably takes a lot of
hard work.

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IMO to bring Rev like development to the iPhone would ignite a HyperCard like cult - the size of which depending very much on cost. I'm sure there are school loads of kids out there who when faced with the effort required to labour through Xcode, would just give up. But with the 'core' ease of Rev it would be a whole new ball game. Sure, they won't produce anything like FileMaker or iCal etc, but neither did the vast majority of HC users. Again,
price of entry would be the key sticking point here.


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