On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 06:08 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote:
Admitedly, the application of do in my project would be kinda unusual and very few people may indeed need it. However, I don't think my desired usage is illegitimate or endangers Rev as a product in any way. Users in my case would enter code that is more like Fortran or Pascal which I convert internally into (reasonably complex) Transcript and execute via do. However, there is no way to have this internally generated code under 10 lines since multiple repeat loops are > involved.
I'm just getting started with it, but check out LispLib:
http://wiki.macitworks.com/revdocs/lisplib
I can almost guarantee you'll be able to work within the 10 line limit. In fact you'll have lines left over. ;-)
Furthermore, the starting point of this thread was that MC/Revolution's license explicitely allows me to produce and distribute standalones without any further royalties.
Using Revolution, you can deliver powerful, fully-featured applications on all major platforms - quickly, easily, and royalty-free.
Unfortunately, the engine imposes the limit on the do length in those -- the fact of which is not clearly stated up front. This is also evidenced by a number of people admitting the surprise when they found it out the hard way, although in their cases it was not a showstopper. This discussion should be not as much about my shareware program ruining 12-year effort but about false/misleading advertising.
"Royalty-free" means without having to pay extra. It has nothing to do with features or capabilities. As an example, Adobe Acrobat allows you to create and distribute PDFs royalty free. The person who receives them, using Acrobat Reader, has a dramatically limited ability to modify the PDF you send them. That doesn't make the claim of royalty free distribution false or misleading.
Also, suggesting that users of my program get own Rev licenses is a bit silly -- if my users were required to do so, why any other Rev-based shareware programs should be different? Are WebMerge users required to purchase Rev or MC?
Again, this is like saying that because I have a QuickTime Pro license, anyone I send a QuickTime movie to should be able to edit it the same way I can, whether they have a license or not. The suggestion above would solve your problem. I assume that's the reason it was made.
For the very small set of tasks that truly require "do", taking a moment to
break them into 10-line chunks would suffice for many of them; more complex
needs will require more effort, but they should anyway:
Executing code in 10-line chunks is not a solution for me because of (anticipated) significant degradation of performance and because of repeat loops within that cod (I haven't tested but I doubt that I can have begin repeat and end repeat in different do statements).
You can't have repeat and end repeat in different do statements, that's true. But you likely don't need to. Further, you are likely to be surprised by the performance. Revolution is fast, even using Do.
regards,
Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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