Yes, such a debate is natural and unavoidable and healthy (even when it gets 
nasty).  Has nothing to do with the intent of my original post.  I am simply 
and obviously questioning the integrity of the original intent of the original 
post in this thread (coming as it did from a paid employee charged with 
customer relations no less).  But mostly my comments are general and concern 
the slow but steady disregard of integrity as a general concept and contract of 
social behavior.  Which is, by the way, not in any way related to the far more 
common (and morally repugnant) stand-in... loyalty.  Loyalty is just a cleaned 
up word that stands for fear of social reprisal.  As example: witness the very 
personal witch hunt that followed my first post.  Luckily, I am (almost) 
immune.  Ultimately, it is truth that matters.  We should be big enough to 
engage in the larger more meaningful debates that go beyond ego and tribalism.  
Courage.
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