Jolly forgiving of you. This presupposes that Apple (which may be so 'managed' that 'Apple' is nothing but short-hand for 'Steve Jobs' - I don't know) has made some sort of 'mistake'; howver, you can be sure that that is far from the truth; the whole thing is a manipulative trick to set everybody's teeth on edge and so that they feel grateful to Steve Jobs (who is nothing more or less than a big 'B'; you have to be a big 'B' to run such a company) when in fact he has done nothing for anyone beyond his firm.

I am 'sorry' to tell you that my wife and I enjoy a rather different sort of relationship than business partners.

For starters, I don't have a desperate urge to continually dominate her and squash her; luckily, should I ever have a dictatorial moment she is quite capable of defending her own interests. "Mutual respect" is the first
phrase that springs to mind.

Developers who wish to use RevMobile to make stuff for the iPhone or the iPad are NOT married to
Steve Jobs (the mind boggles); or even in some sort of conjugal arrangement.

Let us reflect on the Brahma-Vaivarta Purana, and Sri Krsna's "relationships" with his 1008 lovers there, and the way he behaved towards them before we start elevating Steve Jobs to the post of paramour in chief. Presumably there are at least 1008 developers out there wanting to develop stuff for iPhone/Pad who had their *********s bitten off by Steve. The fact that having "pooed" all over those developers, and he now comes "cap in hand" to graciously (Uriah Heep-like) allow them back inside the 'magic circle' is no reason to forgive or forget; the wolf has bitten and the bite marks should serve as a lasting warning that we are
dealing with a wolf.

Kevin, presumably, having kept his head above water in the cut-throat world of computer programming (hey, guess why I went into developing stuff for writing Sanskrit; not that much competition) for quite some time, is not half as naive as that 'nice photo' on the RunRev website would have us believe. I, for one, do not believe that every night from now on, just before he goes to bed, he is down on his knees sending prayers of thanks to Sri Sri Sri 108 Steve Jobs for graciously stooping to cast his darshan on RunRev.

Kevin, is probably, waiting for whatever nasty move one of the major players makes next. I am so very,
very glad it is him, not me.

Of course this is why I will keep 'needling' Kevin about stuff such as Linux, Haiku (gosh, I wish they would speed up - Andre ?????), MorphOS, ReactOS (there's another one struggling to get off the runway) and so on; where, despite other unpredictable factors

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Pause for one of Richmond;'s silly stories [skip this if you have had enough of these].

Waiting for a train from Luton to Central London this year I heard an announcement:

"The train at 14.25 has been cancelled owing to there being no member of staff qualified to drive it."

Open Source has those sorts of moments sometimes.

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there is a shortage of dictatorial types such as Jobs, Gates and Ballmer.

On 9/13/10 7:39 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Personally, I hate being in a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation. 
If someone makes a mistake in judgement or treats me unfairly, but later 
relents, I think it's my part to forgive them and move on. I think if I were 
married to someone and she was so unhappy that nothing I did seemed to please 
her, I would tell her that she just needs to move on. I don't think it's any 
different in business relationships.

Bob


On Sep 10, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:

Jacque,

It occurred to me today that Apple has actually pissed off (can I say that?)
both sides of developers now. Originally, there were the XCode devs and the
'others.' Of course XCoders didn't mind, and many were openly happy the
'others' were getting the boot. "More for ME," they chimed with knowing wink
and a smile. Many defended Apple by citing the protection of the platform's
integrity, first to market advantage, and lack of proper API support, etc..
They were on Apple's side fanning away.

Now, with the change, it seems like both sides would be disappointed. I know
as a frustrated developer BEFORE, I'm not any more of an Apple fan just
because they change their mind like a newborn changes diapers. Heck, their
fickleness cost me business.

But, what about all the poor Xcode developers and Apple apologists who
vigorously defended? I would think they might be a bit upset-- or at least
now think twice before jumping on any license grenade for Apple's sake
again.

I guess what I'm saying here, is even if SJ likes the developers, I'm not at
all sure he's as loved as he once may have been.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:32 PM, J. Landman Gay<[email protected]>wrote:

When everything fell through this last spring, an ex-Apple employee told me
he thought Apple would reverse its decision because, while the customers
don't matter as much to Steve Jobs, the developers absolutely do. He
predicted that developers would leave and Jobs would notice.


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