On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Rob Cozens wrote:This topic goes on and on. Many people have made worthwhile observations, but I would like to add my two cents. Perception of RR is the key element for me.
For those of us who would rather choose a non-confrontational stance, there is still one thing you can do to fight the legacy of X-Talks prejudice:
DISPLAY THE MADE WITH RUN REV IMAGE ON EVERY APPLICATION YOU RELEASE!
If you run away from the issue and try to hide you applications' roots, your efforts can only work against the long-term success & acceptance of the platform you use to build that application.
I think this is appropriate in the credits of an about box, but not in a splash or in main windows in general. The use of the logo must say, "_I_ made this the way _I_ think _my_customers_ need this using the best _tool_ I could find, Revolution." It should not be placed where it seems to say "I poked at Revolution and caused it to make this app the way it thought it should be made and I had to live within those constraints."
Dar Scott
I know customers, who can barely operate a word processor, but they dictate the tool that the professional developer uses. For example, databases are developed in Access despite it being the wrong tool, etc, because that is what the customer wants. It is important to get the word out that RR is a professional tool. The problem is MacTech may present a nice series of RR articles, but the management yahoo controlling projects will never see it. This manager may see articles in Macworld and their ilk, however. This same manager might notice in a bookstore all the VB, etc. books and since there is no RR book on the shelf assume it is not an option. (Don't laugh, I know people who have selected Filemaker Pro databases simply because there are FMP books in the bookstore and they weren't even the developer.)
It is becoming my perception that RR might have been better to use C as its programming language then develop a really slick cross platform library GUI, etc. At least then the management yahoo could have his project done in C and be happy in his ignorance. (I am not sure the write emoticon to use here, so choose one that doesn't upset you.) Unfortunately, the management decision makers do not understand the tools but they have heard that projects should be done in VB, C++, C, Java, and etc..
I have used LabVIEW http://www.ni.com/labview/ that has managed to sell quite well into its niche despite not being VB/C++/C, but it had hardware business to help get the software in the door. For NI the hardware provided the platform for LabVIEWs adoption and then it actually became a great way to sell hardware, just like Windows provides the platform for Microsoft's monopoly in other areas. I do not see that RR has a "platform" to make sure that its software gets in the door.
I wish I had an answer for the perception problem because I really like RR and I would like to see it succeed in the long term, but I don't have the answer.
Michael Y
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