On Jun 5, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:

All of this is likely true, but there are educational markets (higher ed, adult distance learning, etc.) where the "panacea" of web based course materials is still in vogue and where it might actually work.

Mind you, like everyone on this list (I suspect), I'm well aware of the limitations of web delivery. But the people above me who make the decisions--the folks who are, frankly, only marginally computer literate--still see it as a panacea. Some of them are "educable," i.e. can be convinced of the reasons why truly interactive apps are better developed as standalone apps, but many may never see the light.

M

Marian

I used to study in a good high tech university which was a private and expensive one (called puc, the catholical university), they had no problem there with rich clients and were all for experimentation and research, time passed and I transfered to a federal one (public ones are better here and they are free). In my new university we have the same marinally computer literate folks that you have in there. Brazil is a huge country and we're now forced by the federal gov to create a distance learning tool for those in rural areas. If you could just see the monster they created, imagine this: HTML + Microsoft Word documents. I tried to talk to them, it was something along this lines:

        DIRECTOR: "So you think you have a better solution?"
ME: "Yes, I do. In PUC we had a very high level tool which is far more advanced than this one and far easier to work out"
        DIRECTOR: "But it runs in a browser?"
        ME: "No, it runs on itself."
        DIRECTOR: "It needs to run in a browser!"
ME: "You know, browsers are not operating systems, things should not need to run in a browser..."
        DIRECTOR: "Our current solution runs in a browser."
ME: "Your current solution is an index of word documents and email chatting. That is not a solution and will be a problem soon."
        DIRECTOR: "If it does not runs in a browser, we're not interested."

So I guess the problem is true everywere, here they got the national motto of suporting linux and the OSS crowd, so they migrated my campus all to linux. Now think, how a film school student is able to edit videos in linux and how a jornalist student is able to format a magazine/jornal without pagemaker/inDesign/Quark!?

I don't have any solution for those cases...

andre


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Andre Alves Garzia  2004
Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL
http://studio.soapdog.org

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