Dar,

Yes, you see my problem exactly. It is the target that returns the name of my field, but the group name is left off which is bad for me because I have the same name repeated in many differently named groups. I have groups of fields and buttons that are created from templates on the fly, along with many saved values for each (in custom properties).

get the short name of the owner of fld "xxxxx"

will give you the group name within which btn "xxxxx" resides. This syntax assumes that all passed objects are certain to be in a group. Otherwise, get the owner ans inspect the first word for the type of object.

Robert
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