Actually he was talking about a very much larger framework/standard where Warner Brothers was thinking if they did it that way then "everyone" could talk to their accounting via web services, banks, vendors... etc.... everyone... i.e. the problem wasn't narrow scope but the behemoth octopus syndrome.

On Nov 12, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:


On 13 Nov 2005, at 00:19, Dan Shafer wrote:


From which experience i conclude:

(a) AJAX and RIAs are not a panacea
(b) $2 billion acconting firms IT shops probably don't embrace new technologies in the first place (having seen *that* up close and personal) (c) Moving information from one Web service to another is often difficult because of all the impenetrable crap put in the way for "security" in the first place
(d) This technology has a ways to go.


I suspect the CIO was talking about "web services" in the narrow sense of something like SOAP (no longer word of the month). And if that's the case, I can understand his comments. I remember struggling to make the SOAP toolkit that was once distributed with Rev, and at the time thinking "what's the point?". The aim was basically to get a piece of dynamically generated xml from one computer to another - not very different from a web form and a cgi script. In this case, I think it's not the technology that has a way to go, but the definition of a clear purpose, without which committees will generate more committees until the camel is built.




On Nov 12, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:


The CIO of a 2 billion dollar accounting firm that handles movie and media events accounting for the likes of Warner Brothers and Disney, is on our team... he was just here in my office yesterday, explaining to me to be "very cautious" about using of web services. Warner Brother's forced them into it and he says the kajillion lines of code that have evolved from this decision... just to do the simple of things, where all that is really happening is a very little bit of data is moving via an XML protocol from one machine to another, is costing everybody, big time...he said "don't go there!"

just FYI.


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