It's entirely possible to have a group that is not on any card. To do this, simply create a new stack, add a button, group the button, and type this in the message box:

remove group 1 from this card

It's a limitation in the app browser, certainly, that the group in question won't show up in the stack. It shouldn't show up under the card, because it's not on the card.

In this case, if it's not in the card, then surely it's not in the stack and should not be available for "Placing" or whatver.

I'm not sure I'm following what you're describing after that part, but it sounds like you placed the group, which would make it show up in the app browser, allowing you to delete it.

Yes.

Again, I'm not sure I'm following, but it sounds like getting rid of this extraneous group fixed your menu bar problems. If so, great.

Yes.

So, there is definitely a limitation in the app browser, but not a bug. It sounds like a useful feature request to backgrounds that aren't in any card under the stack.

No. it's a bug in RunRev. The only way a group could be created like that, is in a stack that exists in memory but not as a file. This is possible - once! But during the course of tracking this problem down I quit RunRev, restarted the machine and re-loaded RunRev. The Group was part of the stack where the error occured. When I created another stack the problem wasn't present, yet the Group in question was still in the Place Groups Sub-Menu. Besides all this I really don't think a Group can exist (or at least be accessible by RunRev), unless it is in a stack, and all stacks have at least one card, and they should appear in the App Browser anyway.

How the group got there in the first place remains a question for investigation. You can certainly submit it as a bug. If it's not reproducible it'll be difficult to confirm, and harder to fix (assuming it is in fact a bug).

Yes, It's a Bug - Shock Horror! There are loads of em in RunRev - Get used to it and stop being in denial!

Take Care and All the Best
Dave

gc

On Nov 24, 2005, at 3:27 PM, David Burgun wrote:

There was a Group in the Place Groups Sub-Menu that was not listed in any stack/card in the apps browser. When selected it placed a BLOB in the stack window that could not be selected, however, when selected from the apps browser window, it could be deleted. Once this was done it worked.

How can this not be a bug in RunRev?

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