hmm, well i havnt seen this flavor of oddness, but the few weird 'how did that happen???' things with groups have all happened on the Windows side for me and I do most of my development on the Mac side. Since this is usually after a lot of development time, its hard to say exactly what caused it all, its almost always unreproducable, so most likely just a screwup somewhere along the way.

I think some of this is summed up by some stuff just does happen, whether its a bug, file corruption or a user goof or just doing things in such an order that a strange event happens (yes this is a bug, but not a real one since all extreme permutations/combinations cant ever be tested/accounted for). I find that the total quantity of these in MC and Rev while developing all sorts of apps to be very low compared to all other systems i have used over the last 25 years on macs or pcs. I have also never gotten myself painted into a corner with Rev or MC and always found a solution or at worst a work around. I have watched many friends and coworkers get painted into some very, very nasty corners in the past with many of the other big systems out there!

Expecting no strangeness to happen in complicated systems like this is just asking way, way too much, IMHO. Yes its frustrating when you hit a snag, but a deep breath, some elbow grease, and post/replies from this list has always gotten around this for me with MC/Rev. It would be great in a perfect world that this would never be needed, but living in the real world i find that MC/Rev has made my life sooo much better than the alternatives I have worked with, that i can put up with a few oddities once and great while.

cheers,

Jeffrey Reynolds


On Nov 26, 2005, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11/24/2005 at 05:04 PM, Thomas McGrath III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This definitely sounds like a user error. If you have more than one
menu group it will create confusion. If the group "fgttryiolk" is in
the place menu then it was because you 'the user' created it first,
Rev certainly did not create it or put it in your stack. Rev gets
blamed for things like this all of the time.

I have seen this "behavior" frequently -- yes frequently -- in the OS X
version(s) of Rev since waaaaay back. Oddly though, the situation where a
stack, group, or object strangely gets named some crazy name like
"fgttryiolk" can hardly be written off as completely user error because I
never see this happen in the Win2K/XP version of Rev. I don't want to
anger the MacOS fans on this list, but there are anomalies like this that
do not show themselves in Win or Lin systems.

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