Stephen,
you need to read what I wrote more carefully. What I said was said
"strongly", but not to the extent that you have interpreted it. And I
didn't "spew" out anything, other than stating that I agreed with
what Michael had said. There was no "venom" in any of my comments.
Plus, I've learned over the years that sometimes the "squeaky-wheel"
is the only way to go. I, personally, have no complaints with the
performance, but if the situation as Michael stated is correct, it is
not very healthy. Once again, IMHO. If you've followed any of what
I've been doing since joining the Rev List, you would know that I am
anything but Rev's harshest of critics. There appear to be two
schools of thought about Rev's recent performance regarding bug
fixes. I have no reason to join either side.
Joe Wilkins
On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Just to balance a rather irresponsible statement from the poster
below (as there are prospective Rev people on the edge of buying
the product also reading these words ) --
It seems the poster and I are on separate dimensions as I'm working
on a major app, using a great percentage of 2.8 features and don't
see "the scope and bugginess there appears to be in the current Rev
release" that he talks about.
Rev today is LIGHT YEARS more stable and reliable than 3 years ago,
when I first revisited Rev (after passing on the baffling and
unattractive early versions of Metacard). And we can feel the
results of the long conversion from the earlier 'spaghetti' code of
earlier version.
In the poster's own words, he 'haven't personally experienced all
of the "reported" problems' yet he's spewing generalizations about
the product, and making a broad statement of people 'leaving'.
Since this list doesn't seem to be crawling with hundreds of
complaints similar to his, I'll have to assume the poster was
exaggerating, and urge the poster to restrain himself when
presenting broad criticism of the product on the product's mail list.
What is the intention of these baiting posts? To gather consensus
to 'kick Rev's ass' into compliance with some kind of populist
uprising? This is a 'How To Use Revolution' list, not the broad
complaint corner.
It must be depressing to be a coder in the thick of bug fixing and
feature design at Rev and hear gross statements like this.
IMO your are 100% on target. Frankly, I'm appalled at the scope
and degree of bugginess there appears to be in the current Rev
release. I don't see how anyone can have confidence in what they
are doing as things stand. Were I working with the types of apps
I used to produce with HC, and foresaw inaccurate or lost data,
I'd just throw up my hands and withdraw from the game.
Fortunately, in the fifteen years my apps were in used with HC, I
never had to do that. Since I haven't personally experienced all
of the "reported" problems mentioned, I can still be somewhat
reserved in my criticism; but not for long. AFAIC, even work-
arounds are only acceptable on a VERY temporary basis. We can only
make allowances for "all the great stuff that Rev does that can't
be done any other way" for just so long. It appears from the
temper of this list that this "so long" could become "adios" for
some.
--
stephen barncard
s a n f r a n c i s c o
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