----- Original Message ----- From: "Mikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes, the OS folks are to blame, too. However, in my own experience of working with and for people, those who deploy spam and malware protection don't experience a spam or malware problem. Those thatdon't, do.

Agreed. But there is another (and probably more dangerous) factor. The downloading of cracks, keygens and other rubbish. Even the P2P networks have nasty little things like WMA files that execute code (trojan downloaders for example). A large number of people I've been in contact with routinely download this stuff and then wonder why they are infected. I used to assist them. Now I don't bother. Using these tools is purely to circumvent paying for something that should be paid for - so hell mend them.

Scott Kane
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