hi all :) it's a pitty so I am feeling, that realsoft 3d became more and more a very close, not-alive, special software for some engaged 3d (hobby) users here and all over the little earth planet... ;) to get more power you need a vital community and more man-power for development resources (that's my personal opinion)...
...as I know it from cinema, lightwave, modo, blender, maya, 3ds max and more... they have sold their 3d apps (exluding blender, it's free)... for a lot of money at their start to finance all the people for marketing and advertising projects... for e.g. maxon (cinema) has caught some years ago a lot of free plugin users to join the cinema 4d team... this was in my eyes a very good idea and there were / are a lot of meetings amoung the users there... cinema hasn't the power of realsoft until the last updates of version 10 and 11 !... very engaged people you can also find with silo 3d (www.nevercenter.com)... - but I very love realsoft 3d from its beginning (I have started with the 4.1 version!) and has had a very good feeling about this strong, powerful 3d application... today this forum is so calm, don't know why... and I don't know the reason nearly to stop the 3ddart forum with post about realsoft stuff... ??? and so it's also the task of the users/ the light.realsoft3d forum to help and going on to the development and new releases to support the superb veskanen brothers :) don't know all the reasons why it's don't going on so fast with release development, I wished to have some intermediate updates (so far as I know since 4.1 to 4.5 and so on)... and more users they can help with examples or wishes to implement new features they are up-to-date-status-quo... modo has made it with a overwhealming good marketing (even the luxology software hasn't the power of lightwave until this days!!!) very good and lightwave lost a lot of angry users as they had to wait too long for new update releases... wish to have more possibilities to help or take part / influence of the upcoming releases of realsoft 3d... (next one: V 7) therefore vesa and juha should perhaps do open the door for more "intersection" to the realsoft users... and make a wishlist as silo... I know there are a lot of friendly and extreme engaged realsoft / forum people here they can help or want to do it... I am learning quite new programming stuff at school since a half year and would take part to go on with new power for next releases... :) I would like to help and learn more with / about realsoft, but not alone or with the same seven until 10 people ;) ciao and servus, Frank Brübach -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: <[email protected]> Gesendet: 20.04.09 21:46:39 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: Some V7 info @Aidan: I second every sentence you wrote. Different people might see it differently but just one point out of many is that RS3D is an application in the field of creative graphical production. So people not yet into RS3D will most likely judge the program from what they see on its website. Cause they would most possibly think that if the app were good, the homepage would show that by presenting awesome artwork and by being heavily frequented. If the homepage of a creative application doesnŽt show off with what the application is capable of, people have no quick insight into what it IS capable of and will quite possibly in many cases just assume that it lacks the desired capabilities. Especially for young would-be artists it will most certainly be pretty important that the application theyŽre possibly going to spend some hundred bucks on is presented nicely and has a thriving community that is easily accessible. Remember, we`re talking about "generation facebook" here. And taking Modo as an excellent example - its homepage is inspiring, even awe-inspiring sometimes. Heck, if I was completely new to 3D art and wanting to buy a respective application today, I would most certainly prefer Modo over RS3D because of its presentation, its presumed community and the "verve" behind it that it suggests. @Jouni: YouŽre right, advertising is not totaly easy. Yet, in times of the worldwide web it is easy enough to pull of some nice advertising with relatively little effort. Think of a blog. Once per week a few sentences from the developer(s) and the website gives the impression of the product being worked on actively. Just one of many possible examples. After all itŽs just a question of input versus output - if you put some hundred bucks into your advertising and get just 5 people to buy your full-priced product, youŽve made a win. And what you said about game-design - thatŽs something I find pretty interesting cause this very scene is where I would try to recruit new customers. There are many modders and hobby-gamedesigners out there that donŽt yet have the money to buy a fullpriced 3D application or are not yet willing to. Then there is a RS3D version 4.2 out there in the web to be found and downloaded for free legally (at least I assume itŽs legal cause it says "in cooperation with DID" and is hosted on the Digital Productions website). So why not provide it officially through the RS3D website and get some aspiring 3D artists hooked up or at least spread the word? Most youngsters wouldnŽt buy a program for 150+ bucks anyway but some WOULD later buy the program they learned to do 3D with, so in my opinion it would be a win-win situation. Why let those potential customers wander off to try out Blender, GMAX, Truespace, or other free programs? @Mark: IŽve not got the experience to adequately judge this but I would think that it is better to have a program that is really good at some single field of application than a program that is somehow ok for many things but doesnŽt really excell at any point. IŽve never done animations with RS3D so I canŽt really talk about itŽs capabilities there. What I love about RS3D is itŽs very intuitive way of modelling a lot of things. IŽve tried out some demos of other programs just to be overwhelmed by inaccessible interfaces whereas in RS3D most basic things are kept clear and straightforward. But still there are at least two dozen features that I would really love to see added or implemented in a better way. So if I were to outline a strategy to make RS3D better (and I ainŽt ;-) I would first concentrate on making its modelling capabilities even better, improving its interface even further and providing the tools to make it an excellent (meaning - better then nearly all of the other apps out there) program for modders, characteranimators and modellers of all sorts. Only when this were achieved I would concentrate on complex animation features, particles and other stuff. But that is of course just my very personal opinion. Regarding Gary: I donŽt know what has been going on with him or his criticism - I had just read some comments of his on the forum and found him sometimes really having a point. And I pretty much doubt that one person alone could be the downfall of a whole userlist. I would rather assume that if a list or a forum was fragile enough to be virtually destroyed by one persons criticism, however nasty it might be, the respective list or forum would most likely lack the "immune system" to fend of such things. IŽve witnessed many internet-trolls in my life and not one has ever been able to truly disrupt the community it was in. Greets Martin -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ______________________________________________________ GRATIS für alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de
