I know Magnolia wants to keep the dialogs for editing going. In my experience, this confuses the users a bit and it would be better to be able to edit directly on the page instead. So a change like this would bring the admin interface into the webpage or has at least the potential to, While this type of editing is not a design goal of magnolia as far as I understand, it would be good to have an architecture in place that could support this in the future.

Ruben

Jörg von Frantzius wrote:

Personally I was aware that this architectural choice only affects the admin interface, but I also wasn't sure whether everybody else was ;)

We did use GWT in the admin interface, and we made good experiences with it. All I wrote previously about performance was meant to refer to the admin interface, which is being used heavily e.g. by editors. If you work 8h per day on a system that gives you sluggish performance or bad usability, or when you know it could be faster, this can drive you nuts (at least me it would).

From our experience, the decision for a CMS system often is heavily influenced by the actual users of the admin interface, such as editors. And that's with good reason, because it's them who eventually must work with it for years every day.

On 10.08.2010 10:22, Nils Breunese wrote:
Mrinal Kanti wrote:

I feel that the community ecosystem was a bit underestimated in the evaluation where Ext/JS was considered above GWT. I would be considering the overall architecture which supports a wider community involvement - not just from a polished UI perspective but from a social participation perspective.

I feel strongly about the potential of OpenSocial platform (http://www.opensocial.org) and support for other applications like - My Space, Orkut, Google Wave etc. Since Vaadin follows an entirely different architectural approach, I do not know how far it can collaborate with these platforms/applications. Needless to say, that any product architecture which encourages (and has a potential for) developing a community ecosystem would be a first choice regardless of a rich component library or polished UI. I am not bashing Vaadin in general, but it seems it does not have the sufficient advantage to be among the core components of a CMS especially considering the architectural impact/alienation.
I'm not sure if everyone in this thread realizes that the choice for a UI framework for Magnolia 5 is (AFAIK) only a choice for the framework used to build the new *admin* interface. I believe this will have zero impact on your websites. Or am I misunderstanding the complaints?

Nils Breunese.

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