> I know Magnolia wants to keep the dialogs for editing going. In my > experience, this confuses the users a bit and it would be better to be able > to edit directly on the page instead. True, the new page editing will be based on dialogs as most of the other things in AdminCentral. As a first improvement we will open the dialogs directly in the page and at a more natural position. Inline editing is nice but it can only be seen as a nice addition as many things can't be edited inline in a reasonable way: teasers, meta data, check boxes, ...
While the inline editing isn't our top priority, we still try to approach it and are about to prototype some test-cases to validate Vaadin in that regard. As a solution we plan to introduce meta attibutes which tells the page editor what is editable and what elements belong to which paragraph/content. If inline editing is part of 5.0 or not can't be said today but we really try to enable it. We are also expecting much better support for that in HTML 5. > So a change like this would bring the admin interface into the webpage or has > at least the potential to, While this type of editing is not a design goal of > magnolia as far as I understand, it would be good to have an architecture in > place that could support this in the future. Vaadin is based no GWT and GWT can be used to write Vaadin Widgets. We try to proof that this really works. Philipp > > Ruben > > Jörg von Frantzius wrote: >> >> Personally I was aware that this architectural choice only affects the admin >> interface, but I also wasn't sure whether everybody else was ;) >> >> We did use GWT in the admin interface, and we made good experiences with it. >> All I wrote previously about performance was meant to refer to the admin >> interface, which is being used heavily e.g. by editors. If you work 8h per >> day on a system that gives you sluggish performance or bad usability, or >> when you know it could be faster, this can drive you nuts (at least me it >> would). >> >> From our experience, the decision for a CMS system often is heavily >> influenced by the actual users of the admin interface, such as editors. And >> that's with good reason, because it's them who eventually must work with it >> for years every day. >> >> On 10.08.2010 10:22, Nils Breunese wrote: >>> Mrinal Kanti wrote: >>> >>>> I feel that the community ecosystem was a bit underestimated in the >>>> evaluation where Ext/JS was considered above GWT. I would be considering >>>> the overall architecture which supports a wider community involvement - >>>> not just from a polished UI perspective but from a social participation >>>> perspective. >>>> >>>> I feel strongly about the potential of OpenSocial platform >>>> (http://www.opensocial.org) and support for other applications like - My >>>> Space, Orkut, Google Wave etc. Since Vaadin follows an entirely different >>>> architectural approach, I do not know how far it can collaborate with >>>> these platforms/applications. Needless to say, that any product >>>> architecture which encourages (and has a potential for) developing a >>>> community ecosystem would be a first choice regardless of a rich component >>>> library or polished UI. I am not bashing Vaadin in general, but it seems >>>> it does not have the sufficient advantage to be among the core components >>>> of a CMS especially considering the architectural impact/alienation. >>> I'm not sure if everyone in this thread realizes that the choice for a UI >>> framework for Magnolia 5 is (AFAIK) only a choice for the framework used to >>> build the new *admin* interface. I believe this will have zero impact on >>> your websites. Or am I misunderstanding the complaints? >>> >>> Nils Breunese. >>> >>> De informatie vervat in deze e-mail en meegezonden bijlagen is uitsluitend >>> bedoeld voor gebruik door de geadresseerde en kan vertrouwelijke informatie >>> bevatten. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding en/of >>> verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is voorbehouden aan >>> geadresseerde. De VPRO staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige >>> overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mail, noch voor tijdige >>> ontvangst daarvan. >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For list details see >>> http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/community/mailing-lists.html >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to:<[email protected]> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > For list details see > http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/community/mailing-lists.html > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[email protected]> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers - Philipp ---------------------------------------------------------------- For list details see http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/community/mailing-lists.html To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[email protected]> ----------------------------------------------------------------
