On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Nix wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] moaned:
> > On Monday 14 November 2005 14:59, Nix wrote:
> >> I've long wanted to do the same sort of thing,
> >> the kernel keeps 
> >> processing network packets and firewalling and bridging them perfectly
> >> well, but attackers now have *real* trouble changing the configuration.
> > 
> > _BLINK_ _BLINK_
> 
> That's what I thought when I first heard of it :)
> 
> > Is this a _documented_ feature 8-() ?
> 
> Not that I know of, but it's been true for a long, long time: before my
> firewall ran UML it used to rely on it, and it's the only feature that
> old firewall had that I'd still like to have back.
> 
> It's been true for longer than I've used Linux: Rogier Wolff describes
> it in
> <http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-security/1997-April/msg00019.html>.
> The top of that thread has someone calling it a problem, and Alan Cox
> promptly follows up and calls it a feature. If Alan says that a feature
> of networking of that vintage is intentional I guess it counts as sort
> of documented. )

Yep, as long as interrupts are alife, networking keeps on working.

That's also the reason why sometimes you can still ping crashed boxes: as long
as interrupts are working, ping will work.

IIRC I read about the above scenario as an actually recommendation for a
safe firewall a long time ago...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                                                Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                                            -- Linus Torvalds


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