On 20 Dec 2010, at 23:20, Sebastian Cohnen wrote:

> question inside :)
> 
> On 20.12.2010, at 23:02, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 20 Dec 2010, at 22:32, Chenini, Mohamed wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I found this info on the net at 
>>> http://www.slideshare.net/danglbl/schemaless-databases
>>> [...]
>>> Does anyone knows if this was verified?
>> 
>> I think the author's comment on slide 35 sums it up pretty nicely:
>> 
>> "Of course this is just one (lame) test."
>> 
>> Coming up good numbers is hard which means that people with easy ways to 
>> make them come up with bad ones.
>> 
>> I've written about the difficulties on benchmarks databases on my blog:
>> 
>> http://jan.prima.de/~jan/plok/archives/175-Benchmarks-You-are-Doing-it-Wrong.html
>> http://jan.prima.de/~jan/plok/archives/176-Caveats-of-Evaluating-Databases.html
>> 
>> They should give you a few pointers on why this is hard.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> To the point: CouchDB generally performs best with concurrent load. In the 
>> case of loading data into CouchDB, bulk requests* will speed up things 
>> again. To push CouchDB to a write limit, you want to use concurrent bulk 
>> requests (specific numbers will depend on your data and hardware).
> 
> Does this really speed up things? I've tried this approach (concurrent bulk 
> inserts) with small/big docs and small/big bulk chunk sizes: the difference 
> was not significant. I thought this was reasonable, since writes are 
> serialized anyways. The setup was one box generating documents, creating 
> bulks and keep them in memory and bulk insert batches of complete docs (incl. 
> simple monotonic increasing ints as doc ids) to another node. delayed commit 
> was off.

Have you tested these against single doc inserts?

Cheers
Jan
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> 
>> 
>> * http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/HTTP_Bulk_Document_API
>> 
>> Unfortunately this means that these one-off benchmarks don't show any good 
>> numbers for CouchDB, yet fortunately this shows easily that these one-off 
>> benchmarks don't really reflect common real-world usage and should be 
>> discouraged.
>> 
>> Hope that helps, let us know if you have any more questions :)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jan
>> -- 
>> 
> 

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