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On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Keith Gable <[email protected]> wrote: > IE8 is the most recently supported IE on Windows XP. If you’re developing > software for Windows XP, you should know that Microsoft is stopping all > support (unless you have loads of cash) in April. > > > If you’re on Vista or newer, you can run IE9, which does work fine. > > > That said, it sounds like a simple patch to make. > > > > > > > From: Jason Winshell > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:12 PM > To: CouchDB User Mailing List > > > > > > Jens, > > Thanks for the speedy response. I certainly appreciate the low-bandwidth > situation of the folks who generously contribute their time. Nonetheless, IE > is the browser used by government and many corporations. This is not a matter > of what browser is better than another. It's just a fact of life. I as a > contractor, don't get to dictate the tools used in those environments. IT > staff, like database administrators are absolutely not going to use curl > (assuming it's even allowed to be installed on machines) to manage a > database. CouchDB has to have browser admin UI that is compatible with IE, > Chrome and Firefox. IE being the most important even if is not the choice of > developers. I'm presented with such frustrating realities every day in my > work for big companies and government. I'm sure there are plenty of folks on > the user and developer list who deal with that. > > I'm curious as to what the QA process is for posting official releases. What > is the test regression process? I got hung up by a serious bug (which I > didn't know was a bug) last week in the Mac OS 1.5 build that I got off the > web site. I found that modest size attachments (e.g. 3MB) took 20-25 seconds > to upload, regardless of the technique. I ran the same test on Windows and > found no problems, under a second, barely measurable. One the contributors, > who respond to my post on the user forum, said the bug been identified and > fixed in a branch, but not yet posted as a 1.5 patch build. The Mac is not my > production platform, but I develop all my code on it. Do you know when/how > the bug fix (by the way, what is the bug) will be posted to an official build? > > Thanks > > Jason > > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Jens Alfke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Feb 18, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Jason Winshell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm at a bit of a loss trying to understand how a bug like this could go >>> undetected in an official release. >> >> Because the CouchDB contributors don't have the bandwidth to test the admin >> UI (which is obviously lower priority than the core database) on every >> version of every browser? >> >> (Also, I'll bet there's a low correlation between people who work on or use >> CouchDB and people who use MSIE, so this kind of bug wouldn't get noticed >> very often.) >> >> The thing I find odd is that the one browser CouchDB is officially tested >> with is Firefox, not Chrome, when Chrome has about twice the market share of >> Firefox or MSIE[1] and is based on {something still very close to} WebKit, >> which has about 80% of mobile market share[2]. >> >> I'm guessing the choice of which browser to support/test with was made early >> on, maybe 5 years ago, when Firefox was more dominant and MSIE was still in >> terrible shape. >> >>> It's essential that Futon work with IE. Corporate and government >>> installations dictate the what software is installed on machines. A user >>> would not be allowed to install a Couch compatible browser. >> >> Futon's not an essential part of CouchDB. It doesn't do anything you can't >> do through the REST API. As long as users are allowed to install 'curl' >> they'll be OK ;-) >> >> —Jens >> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Summary_table >> [2] http://www.businessinsider.com/mobile-browser-share-2013-11
