I developed a small mobile couchapp ~4 years ago. The idea was cool, but
ultimately I felt it required more effort than the benefit for what I
understood at the time as essentially static file hosting. I'm sure it has
many more features now.

CouchApps are a nice add-on and experiment, but with my experience, I'd
find it difficult to recommend to anyone wanting to build a complex service
on top of. The logical choice to me is that this is a plugin as opposed to
a feature.

I'd like to see CouchDB move in the direction Jan proposes: simplicity and
a clear message of reliable data storage.

Having said that, I'm desperate to see CouchDB 2.0 launched. If deciding
either means this happens sooner, I'm in favour :-)

cheers,
sam


On 6 May 2015 at 18:24, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 06 May 2015, at 18:18, Alexander Shorin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Giovanni Lenzi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> What you all think about it?
> >
> > I think we need just clarify what CouchApp is, define it's show cases
> > and area where they are works perfectly.
> > First step is to back couchapp.org online (almost done). Then, just
> > fill it the right content. That will solve any confusions.
>
> Before we fix anything, we need to understand how to fix it. To understand
> how to fix it we need to understand what we do. To understand what we do,
> we need to understand why we do it. — Hence, we first need to find a “The
> Why of CouchDB” story that reflects our intentions before any of the other
> decisions can happen. That’s what my original message is about.
>
>
> > I'm -1 for removal CouchApps as a since it's not possible as CouchApps
> > are not a some entity, but a way of organizing design documents in
> > order to solve some specific problem.
>
> The problem is, as outlined in my emails on marketing@ that I linked
> earlier
> that “CouchApp” means at least eight different things to different groups
> of
> people. That is terribly confusing and makes people new to CouchDB leave us
> in spades because it is just too complicated.
>
> I never meant for the actual technical features in CouchDB to be removed
> and
> I never said so.
>
> > We just need to find a sweet spot, a right vector for their future since
> as
> > for now I feel CouchApp as a technology is just lost in space.
>
> Exactly, and its harming CouchDB.
>
> To get this rolling, we need to understand what we do and why we do it.
> Then
> we can decide if and how “CouchApp” in whatever form fits into this.
>
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
>


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