+1.

Excellent job on the documentation, Troy!
--Guergana

From: Masanz, James J. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:02 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: concept identification query


+1, and  I suggest it not just be mentioned, but that it be strongly mentioned. 
Maybe even change some headings on that User Guide page to indicate the 
"Install" is of the code, not of the real dictionaries.



Perhaps the heading  "Install cTAKES" could be changed to "Install cTAKES 
without UMLS dictionaries"



Or add a new section between these two

Install cTAKES

Process documents using cTAKES



Something like this

Install cTAKES

Install UMLS dictionaries (optional, but required to test Concept 
Identification on your own data)

Process documents using cTAKES



And under  Process documents using cTAKES" we could have a big NOTE that says 
something like "Be aware that if you have not installed the UMLS dictionaries, 
you only have a tiny sample dictionary...."



Troy, you have done such a good job at the docs, I'll leave these are 
suggestions for you, but I'd be happy to take a pass at drafting something on 
the Wiki if you'd prefer.



Regards,

James Masanz



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
giri vara prasad nambari

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:34 AM

To: user

Subject: Re: concept identification query



I second Tim's comment. Information in the link provided by Troy is really 
helpful, if "user guide" has this link may be in ctakes-resources downloaded 
section, that helps users.



Right now I am limited myself as user of ctakes and trying to understand what I 
may get our of the box, how much I need to customize to develop my idea into a 
to prototype.



You guys have been really helpful with quick replies with solution pointers. 
Few days back, I was about to give-up, but with the help and pointers I am 
getting from you guys, motivated me to stay with ctakes and explore more. Now I 
am almost ready to finalize infrastructure and take-off for prototype 
development(few more things to hash-out and hoping they will be quick).



Thanks again for your time and help.



Thank you,

Giri

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Tim Miller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Troy,

My vote would be to mention in the user guide that "real" entity recognition 
requires the umls component, and maybe a link to the developers guide where 
that is explained? Probably there are some people who wouldn't know what to 
expect out of the box and will be disappointed that it doesn't find much. 
(Luckily some of them email our lists and we can help them figure it out, but 
there may be people who just figure it doesn't work very well and give up.)



Btw, the guides are really nice, great job on that.

Tim



On 04/12/2013 12:12 PM, Bleeker, Troy C. wrote:

The Developer install guide talks about UMLS integration: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+3.0+Developer+Install+Guide

Search for UMLS. It is described for Eclipse and for command line. Users that 
are just trying out cTAKES don't have those instructions. Do you think they 
should be part of the User Guide?



Troy

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
giri vara prasad nambari

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:06 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: concept identification query



Hi All,

Where do we need to update this UMLS key in ctakes?

Thanks for your time and help.

Thank you,

Giri

On Apr 12, 2013 10:59 AM, "Savova, Guergana" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

You would need to get a UMLS license to get the full functionality. It takes 
2-3 days to be approved for it.

Hope this helps.

--Guergana



From: Rooney, Niall [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:26 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: concept identification query



Pei,



I don't have a UMLS license yet but thanks for looking into this.



From: Chen, Pei [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 12 April 2013 15:10

To: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: concept identification query



Thanks Tim for confirming...

AggregatePlaintextUMLSProcessor.xmlshould pick up stomach and aphasia etc.



Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:25 AM, "Tim Miller" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Niall,

I'm sure Pei will get back to you soon, but just wanted to let you know, many 
of those entities will be found by the standard ctakes installation. I get 
aphasia and stomach.  It does not get blood pressure, I think because this is 
filtered out by UMLS semantic class - I think it is categorized as a 
"measurement," and cTAKES will find things like disease/disorder, 
signs/symptoms, and a few others, which this does not fit into exactly.  It may 
be worth thinking about how to include it if it will be useful. In this example 
it looks like it's linked to some assessment "HB +20%", I assume that is some 
measurement that would be useful to extract?

Tim

On 04/12/2013 07:05 AM, Rooney, Niall wrote:

Hi,



I have question concerning concept identification.  I have modifying the 
example text given in the installation instructions to demonstrate the use of 
CAS Visual Debugger.



My text is:



Dr. Nutritious



Medical Nutrition Therapy for Hyperlipidemia and Aphasia



Referral from: Julie Tester, RD, LD, CNSD

Phone contact: (555) 555-1212

Height: 144 cm   Current Weight: 45 kg   Date of current weight: 02-29-2001   
Admit Weight:  53 kg   BMI: 18 kg/m2

Diet: General

Daily Calorie needs (kcals): 1500 calories, assessed as HB + 20% for activity 
and blood pressure.

Daily Protein needs: 40 grams,  assessed as 1.0 g/kg.

Pt has been on a 3-day calorie count and has had an average intake of 1100 
calories.  She was instructed to drink 2-3 cans of liquid supplement to help 
promote weight gain.

 She agrees with the plan and has my number for further assessment. May want a 
Metabolic Rate as well. She takes Codeine a day for knee and stomach pain.





Original entities and concepts are identified such as "Hyperlidemia" , 
"knee","pain". However concepts associated with addition to the text are not 
identified such as "Aphasia", "blood pressure", "stomach".  Also "metabolic 
rate" is not identified. Does anyone know why this is?







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