Thank you Joshi.
We are using currently FsStateBackend since in version 1.3 it supports async 
snapshots, and no RocksDB.

Does anyone else has feedback on this issues?

From: Narendra Joshi [mailto:narendr...@gmail.com]
Sent: יום א 29 אוקטובר 2017 12:13
To: Sofer, Tovi [ICG-IT] <ts72...@imceu.eu.ssmb.com>
Cc: user <user@flink.apache.org>
Subject: Re: state size effects latency


We have also faced similar issues. The only thing that happens in sync when 
using async snaphots is getting a persistent point in time picture which in 
case of rocksdb backend is making symlinks. That would linearly increase with 
number of files to symlink but this should be negligible. We could not find a 
satisfying reason for increase in latency with state size.

Best,
Narendra

Narendra Joshi
On 29 Oct 2017 15:04, "Sofer, Tovi" 
<tovi.so...@citi.com<mailto:tovi.so...@citi.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

In our application we have a requirement to very low latency, preferably less 
than 5ms.
We were able to achieve this so far, but when we start increasing the state 
size, we see distinctive decrease in latency.
We have added MinPauseBetweenCheckpoints, and are using async snapshots.

•         Why does state size has such distinctive effect on latency? How can 
this effect be minimized?

•         Can the state snapshot be done using separates threads and resources 
in order to less effect on stream data handling?


Details:

Application configuration:
env.enableCheckpointing(1000);
env.getCheckpointConfig().setMinPauseBetweenCheckpoints(1000);
env.setStateBackend(new FsStateBackend(checkpointDirURI, true)); // use async 
snapshots
env.setParallelism (16) ; //running on machine with 40 cores

Results:


A.      When state size is ~20MB got latency of 0.3 ms latency for 99’th 
percentile

Latency info: (in nanos)
2017-10-26 07:26:55,030 INFO  com.citi.artemis.flink.reporters.Log4JReporter - 
[Flink-MetricRegistry-1] 
localhost.taskmanager.6afd21aeb9b9bef41a4912b023469497.Flink Streaming 
Job.AverageE2ELatencyChecker.0.LatencyHistogram: count:10000 min:31919 
max:13481166 mean:89492.0644 stddev:265876.0259763816 p50:68140.5 p75:82152.5 
p95:146654.0499999999 p98:204671.74 p99:308958.73999999993 
p999:3844154.002999794
State\checkpoint info:

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B.      When state size is ~200MB latency was significantly decreased to 9 ms 
latency for 99’th percentile
Latency info:
2017-10-26 07:17:35,289 INFO  com.citi.artemis.flink.reporters.Log4JReporter - 
[Flink-MetricRegistry-1] 
localhost.taskmanager.05431e7ecab1888b2792265cdc0ddf84.Flink Streaming 
Job.AverageE2ELatencyChecker.0.LatencyHistogram: count:10000 min:30186 
max:46236470 mean:322105.7072 stddev:2060373.4782505725 p50:68979.5 
p75:85780.25 p95:219882.69999999914 p98:2360171.4399999934 
p99:9251766.559999945 p999:3.956163987499886E7
State\checkpoint info:


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Thanks and regrdas,
Tovi

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