Till, Yun, etal,

Now that we've established the community's interest in engaging with this
content, I've started a new thread on the dev list for discussion of the
details.

I've said a bit there already regarding ongoing maintenance, and CI for the
exercises.

Best,
David

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 4:23 PM Yun Tang <myas...@live.com> wrote:

> +1 for this idea.
>
> I think there would existed many details to discuss once community ready
> to host the materials:
>
>    1. How to judge whether a lab exercise should be added? There would be
>    many user cases for streaming computation, I think we should need a outline
>    for the knowledge map of Flink and contributors could choose those not
>    touched to add or polish existing labs, however, the latter one could be
>    more difficult to judge.
>    2. How to judge a PR could be merged?  I think no CI system could be
>    used for adding exercises, we need some principles or tools to ensure the
>    exercise could be run well as expected.
>
> Best
> Yun Tang
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 16:08
> *To:* dev <d...@flink.apache.org>
> *Cc:* Eduardo Winpenny Tejedor <eduardo.winpe...@gmail.com>; Seth Wiesman
> <sjwies...@gmail.com>; Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl>; user <
> user@flink.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PROPOSAL] Contribute training materials to Apache Flink
>
> Hi David,
>
> making the training materials available on flink.apache.org would
> increase the reach and improve its visibility. Since this is very helpful
> material for our users +1 for contributing the training material.
>
> If we decide not maintain different versions, then we might be able to
> highlight features which are only available in/since a certain version.
>
> One thing the community should be aware of is that we also need to
> maintain the training material. Maybe you could share with us how much
> effort this usually is when updating the training material for a new Flink
> version, David?
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:31 PM David Anderson <da...@ververica.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes, the training materials could become part of the docs, as you suggest.
> The reason why I'm somewhat resistant to this idea is that the
> documentation is versioned. It will be easier to maintain the training
> content and its exercises and examples if we only have to be concerned with
> having one version (for the latest Flink release), and I don't really see
> any added value to the community in keeping older versions of the training
> online.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 8:46 PM Eduardo Winpenny Tejedor <
> eduardo.winpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 to the idea, David regarding your question, could it go in a
> > quickstart/get started with Flink section? Next to or replacing the
> current
> > 'Getting started' section?
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, 22:11 Seth Wiesman, <sjwies...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> +1 to add to the project.
> >>
> >> I agree that flink.apache.org and flink playgrounds respectively are
> the
> >> best places to host this content.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 2:56 PM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like a very nice thing to have as part of the project ecosystem.
> >>>
> >>> Niels
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:10 PM David Anderson <da...@ververica.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Flink Community!
> >>>>
> >>>> For some time now Ververica has been hosting some freely available
> >>>> Apache
> >>>> Flink training materials at https://training.ververica.com. This
> >>>> includes
> >>>> tutorial content covering the core concepts of the DataStream API, and
> >>>> hands-on exercises that accompany those explanations.
> >>>>
> >>>> Website: https://training.ververica.com
> >>>> Website repo: https://github.com/dataArtisans/flink-training
> >>>> Exercises: repo:
> https://github.com/ververica/flink-training-exercises
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to contribute this training content to Apache Flink. By
> >>>> doing
> >>>> so, we hope to make it even easier for folks to get started with
> Flink.
> >>>> Especially during this time when so many are working from home, we'd
> >>>> like
> >>>> to get this self-paced training course out where more people will see
> >>>> it.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the community wants these training materials, then this also raises
> >>>> the
> >>>> question of where to put them. We are thinking it would be best to
> >>>> integrate the website content into flink.apache.org, and to add the
> >>>> exercises to flink-playgrounds -- but these points can be discussed
> >>>> separately once we've established that the community wants this
> content.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking forward to hearing what you think!
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >>>
> >>> Niels Basjes
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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