Have you any experience configuring guacamole to connect to a NuoRDS
server? Wouldn't want to plunk down the $49 bucks for a license without
knowing, though there is a 30 day trial, so I guess I could try that first.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 11:28 AM Michael Jumper <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, Mac-to-Mac screen sharing uses a proprietary protocol based on VNC.
> When a normal VNC client connects to a Mac using standard VNC, a
> different and far less efficient protocol ends up being used.
>
> There are other screen sharing solutions for Mac that both implement
> standard protocols and are faster than Mac's support for standard VNC,
> such as the NuoRDS RDP server.
>
> I think for Guacamole to achieve the performance of the proprietary Mac
> screen sharing protocol, we would need to implement our own remote
> desktop server for Mac that serves Guacamole protocol directly. Only
> then would we be able to take advantage of other performance options
> provided by the Guacamole protocol like nested layers and compositing.
>
> If the Mac-to-Mac screen sharing protocol were opened up to the public,
> or if someone reverse engineered the protocol and implemented a library
> supporting it, then guacamole-server could support it directly and that
> would probably also do the trick.
>
> - Mike
>
> On 5/4/23 08:00, Doug Baggett wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply.
> >
> > I appreciate your suggestion of using TeamViewer, but I am specifically
> > interested in using Guacamole with VNC to connect to my Mac. I agree
> > that Guacamole’s advantage is that it does not require any client
> > software installation, but I am wondering why it is slower than native
> > Mac-to-Mac screen sharing. Do you have any idea why this might be the
> > case? Have you tried using Guacamole with VNC to connect to a Mac and
> > compared it to other methods of screen sharing?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:47 AM Shigeki Sawamura
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello.
> >
> >     You install host and client software, right?
> >     TeamViewer is also fast if you can install it.
> >     Guacamole's good point is that you can access the client only with a
> >     browser.
> >
> >     At least I'm more comfortable using it than software that doesn't
> >     know where it goes.
> >     This may be a minority opinion.
> >
> >     Best Regards,
> >
> >
> >     On 2023/05/04 木 午後 09:26, Doug Baggett wrote:
> >      > One issue that has been bothering me is the noticeable difference
> >     in speed when using Apache Guacamole with VNC to connect to my Mac,
> >     compared to native Mac-to-Mac screen sharing.
> >      >
> >      > I initially assumed that Mac-to-Mac screen sharing utilized VNC,
> >     but after testing other VNC clients, I found that they also
> >     exhibited slower performance, similar to Guacamole.
> >      >
> >      > Some theories suggest that Mac-to-Mac screen sharing detects
> >     another Mac connecting and employs hardware-encoded/decoded HEVC,
> >     resulting in faster performance. Has anyone else experienced this
> >     slower performance when using Guacamole or a standard VNC client? I
> >     have compared Mac-to-Mac screen sharing over ZeroTier on the
> >     internet, and it is significantly faster than using Guacamole/VNC to
> >     connect to the same Mac. I am curious to hear if others have had
> >     similar experiences or thoughts on this issue.
> >      >
> >      > It would really be nice if there was some way for guacamole to
> >     have similar performance as native Mac-to-Mac screensharing.
> >      >
> >      > thanks!
> >      >
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