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On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 11:50 AM Shigeki Sawamura <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello.
>
> NuoRDS can be connected to RDP normally.
> But I never set it in Guacamore.
> If you are a Windows client, you can connect without any special settings.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> On 2023/05/05 金 午前 12:45, Doug Baggett wrote:
> > Thanks, I was not aware of NuoRDS. Do you mean you could set up NuoRDS
> on a Mac, then use Guacamole to do an RDP connection to it instead of VNC?
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 11:28 AM Michael Jumper <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Yes, Mac-to-Mac screen sharing uses a proprietary protocol based on
> VNC.
> >     When a normal VNC client connects to a Mac using standard VNC, a
> >     different and far less efficient protocol ends up being used.
> >
> >     There are other screen sharing solutions for Mac that both implement
> >     standard protocols and are faster than Mac's support for standard
> VNC,
> >     such as the NuoRDS RDP server.
> >
> >     I think for Guacamole to achieve the performance of the proprietary
> Mac
> >     screen sharing protocol, we would need to implement our own remote
> >     desktop server for Mac that serves Guacamole protocol directly. Only
> >     then would we be able to take advantage of other performance options
> >     provided by the Guacamole protocol like nested layers and
> compositing.
> >
> >     If the Mac-to-Mac screen sharing protocol were opened up to the
> public,
> >     or if someone reverse engineered the protocol and implemented a
> library
> >     supporting it, then guacamole-server could support it directly and
> that
> >     would probably also do the trick.
> >
> >     - Mike
> >
> >     On 5/4/23 08:00, Doug Baggett wrote:
> >      > Thank you for your reply.
> >      >
> >      > I appreciate your suggestion of using TeamViewer, but I am
> specifically
> >      > interested in using Guacamole with VNC to connect to my Mac. I
> agree
> >      > that Guacamole’s advantage is that it does not require any client
> >      > software installation, but I am wondering why it is slower than
> native
> >      > Mac-to-Mac screen sharing. Do you have any idea why this might be
> the
> >      > case? Have you tried using Guacamole with VNC to connect to a Mac
> and
> >      > compared it to other methods of screen sharing?
> >      >
> >      > Best regards,
> >      >
> >      > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:47 AM Shigeki Sawamura
> >      > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     Hello.
> >      >
> >      >     You install host and client software, right?
> >      >     TeamViewer is also fast if you can install it.
> >      >     Guacamole's good point is that you can access the client only
> with a
> >      >     browser.
> >      >
> >      >     At least I'm more comfortable using it than software that
> doesn't
> >      >     know where it goes.
> >      >     This may be a minority opinion.
> >      >
> >      >     Best Regards,
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >     On 2023/05/04 木 午後 09:26, Doug Baggett wrote:
> >      >      > One issue that has been bothering me is the noticeable
> difference
> >      >     in speed when using Apache Guacamole with VNC to connect to
> my Mac,
> >      >     compared to native Mac-to-Mac screen sharing.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > I initially assumed that Mac-to-Mac screen sharing
> utilized VNC,
> >      >     but after testing other VNC clients, I found that they also
> >      >     exhibited slower performance, similar to Guacamole.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > Some theories suggest that Mac-to-Mac screen sharing
> detects
> >      >     another Mac connecting and employs hardware-encoded/decoded
> HEVC,
> >      >     resulting in faster performance. Has anyone else experienced
> this
> >      >     slower performance when using Guacamole or a standard VNC
> client? I
> >      >     have compared Mac-to-Mac screen sharing over ZeroTier on the
> >      >     internet, and it is significantly faster than using
> Guacamole/VNC to
> >      >     connect to the same Mac. I am curious to hear if others have
> had
> >      >     similar experiences or thoughts on this issue.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > It would really be nice if there was some way for
> guacamole to
> >      >     have similar performance as native Mac-to-Mac screensharing.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > thanks!
> >      >      >
> >      >
> >      >
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