Hey Dennis,

Specifying the schema url is simply a convenience tool so you can have a
single schema defined instead of having a SQL schema (CREATE TABLE) and a
separate Avro schema file which reduces maintenance overhead and prevents a
situation where the two could potentially fall out of sync.

Thanks.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 12:00 PM Dennis Suhari <dennis.suh...@ilab.nordlb.de>
wrote:

> Understood. So to hold the schema stable you should have an external
> reference to an avrc url (eg registry) which can evolve. And checking new
> Avro against registry is made easy because avrc is embedded. And if changed
> you can easily create a new version.
> Is this the idea ?
>
> Br,
> Dennis
> ------------------------------
> *Von:* David <dam6...@gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 31. Oktober 2020 14:52:04
> *An:* user@hive.apache.org
> *Betreff:* Re: Hive Avro: Directly use of embedded Avro Scheme
>
> What would your expectation be?  That Hive reads the first file it finds
> and uses that schema in the table definition?
>
> What if the table is empty and a user attempts an INSERT?  What should be
> the behavior?
>
> The real power of Avro is not so much that the schema can exist
> (optionally) in the file itself but that the schema can mutate over time.
> In such cases the table can be ALTERED, for example to add a new column,
> and the existing schema will still work.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 6:57 AM Dennis Suhari <dennis.suh...@ilab.nordlb.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Support,  currently I have created the following AVRO Hive table
>> which works fine.  CREATE EXTERNAL TABLE blahblah.blublub
>> STORED AS AVRO LOCATION "/***/in" TBLPROPERTIES
>> ('avro.schema.url‘=‚/.../schema/blublub.avsc')  As you can see I need to
>> use the schema 'avro.schema.url' property which points to the AVRO schema
>> blublub.avsc. This blublub.avsc I simply extract from the AVRO files.   How
>> is it possible to work without 'avro.schema.url' and directly use the Avro
>> scheme which is actually already delivered within Avro itself (that the
>> strength from Avro) ? I want to have all columns that are included in the
>> Avro specification, but without having them in the create statement.  Br,
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>

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