Good luck with Cucumber. On 17/12/2011 18:27, George Dinwiddie wrote:
Mauro,I'm sorry that JBehave has become a walled garden where people cannot get answers to simple questions.I took care of the dependencies. Having programmed in Java for over a decade, I quite understand classpaths.The example does not run the stories via JUnit, and I can't find documentation to tell me how to do that.I've seen at a client that it takes a very long time to run a single story via Maven. It's unacceptably long, to me. I'd hoped that I could offer them a better option. I guess that option may have to be cucumber-jvm.- George On 12/17/11 6:46 AM, Mauro Talevi wrote:George, JBehave supports Maven and Ant as command-line tools to run stories, via custom goals and tasks. In addition, provided you've configured your project correctly, you can use JUnit within an IDE. You can also run via JUnit in command-line, if you choose, but it's up to you to configure the classpath and the run context. Again, you can do it via Maven or Ant. As already noted, you can use Maven support in Eclipse to set up your project and then - once you've generated the .classpath and .project files - forget about Maven. You may consider Maven as witchcraft if you want, but it's witchcraft that works. It allows reproducibility in a declarative way. You don't always need to understand how a tool does something to use it. Various Eclipse distributions already come bundled with m2e plugin, e.g. the Spring one. All you got to do is "Import existing Maven project" and then use it as a normal Eclipse project. But you can't argue with taste. We're not here to convince you of the merits of this or that tool. All we're saying is that these are thetools supported by JBehave. We can only help you if you decide to use them.On 16/12/2011 16:55, George Dinwiddie wrote:Mauro, On 12/15/11 3:49 AM, Mauro Talevi wrote:George, your Eclipse project must be misconfigured. We cannot support every possible way of configuring IDEs. This is why we use Maven which all IDEs now support to configure projects.I'd be happy if you could tell me how to run the JBehave tests of the gameoflife example via JUnit from the command line. If JBehave can ONLY do things using the hidden magic of Maven, then just say so. If you are so wedded to Maven that you no longer know how to use JBehave without it, say that. - GeorgeIf you do not wish to use the m2e plugin, I'm afraid we can't help you.On 15 Dec 2011, at 04:03, George Dinwiddie<li...@idiacomputing.com> wrote:Mauro, On 12/14/11 3:52 AM, Mauro Talevi wrote:Hi George, I think I finally understand: you're running the unit tests - which are in src/test/java - instead of the stories via JUnit - which are found in src/main/java. Look for GridStory and its extensions, e.g. ICanToggleACell. This you can run via JUnit.Again, how do I do that. When I tried, JUnit said it found no tests. - GeorgeCheers On 14/12/2011 04:15, George Dinwiddie wrote:Resending, as this message just bounced back from last Saturday. Mauro, On 12/10/11 11:54 AM, Mauro Talevi wrote:Well, you gotta use some system to fetch the dependencies and set the classpath.Yes, I've done that. As I said, the junit tests in the gameoflifeexample runs. I cannot figure out how to run the jbehave story tests.I'm starting to feel like you're not reading all the way through my posts. - GeorgeThe recommendation is to use either the Maven or Ant support in Eclipse to do that. Else, it's very hard for us to help you. For example, the Maven integration in Eclipse works very well and you don't need to be aMaven guru to use it. It simply reads the POM to set up your Eclipseproject and classpath. On Sat Dec 10 16:46:50 2011, George Dinwiddie wrote:Mauro, I'm trying to execute the stories via Eclipse. I'm not using Ant. - George On 12/10/11 9:24 AM, Mauro Talevi wrote:George, the example for Ant exists already. If you look at the list of examples, you'll find the trader-ant example with a standalone build.xml (and also referred to in http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/running-examples.html) I've added a README file with further instructions, but the build.xml is already self-explanatory for someone familiar with Ant.The trader-ant example can be used both in command-line: e.g. antbuild -Djbehave.version=3.5.4 and in IDE, after adding the jars to the classpath. The jars are downloaded to the target/lib directory by the command-line ant task. Note that the src of the example resides in ../trader/src/main - soyou'll need to either copy it or point to it. The ant build.xml isconfigured to use it. Hope that helps. Cheers On 10/12/2011 05:25, George Dinwiddie wrote:Mauro, On 12/9/11 12:47 PM, Mauro Talevi wrote:George, thanks for the feedback - always appreciated - but I'm rather puzzled as to some of your example comments. E.g. "I would expect http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/running-examples.html to tell me how to execute the examples, preferably in different ways". To me that's what the page does.Oh, it leaves me puzzled. I suppose if I were an expert at Maven, it would be clear to me. But I'm not, and becoming an expert in Maven isn't my current goal. What should I type on the command line to run the gameoflife example?Similarly, you when you say that "it took a small note (not prominently displayed) on from http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/dependencies.htmlthat lead me to the POM file that downloaded the dependencies."On that page, under the "Apache Ant" section, it's the first andmost prominent things it says.Yes, I suppose if I'd been trying to use Ant, I would have noticethat. I was just trying to resolve the dependencies after loading the source into Eclipse. I don't normally set up an Ant build.xml just to compile some example code.And in the "Getting Started" page, it states under the "Run Story" section: "Be sure to check that you have all the required dependencies<http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/dependencies.html> in yourclasspath." Perhaps, you could contribute some documentation that explains the getting started from your point of view and how you'd like it explained. We're always happy to improve via users' contributions.If I could get started, perhaps I could do that. A small and simple example that actually specified what I had to puton the classpath and what I had to type on the command line wouldgo a long way. I can build on a small success. I'm stymied when it doesn't do anything at all. What is the simplest and smallest way to get started?As for the running of examples, what's written in the Getting Started page is just a guideline. You should try to run an example from the onesin source code and if it fails tell us how you're running it. Orcontribute your own example.I recounted how it fails:It says, "Open your favourite IDE, the ICanToggleACell.java classwill allow itself to run as a JUnit test." In Eclipse, JUnit isreporting "no tests found."What do you mean "allow itself to run as a JUnit test?" It seemsto be hiding from JUnit, in my limited experience. - GeorgeCheers On 09/12/2011 16:03, George Dinwiddie wrote:Mauro, On 12/9/11 7:39 AM, Mauro Talevi wrote:Hi George, have you look at http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/getting-started.html?Yes, that's the page I started with. It's remarkably light on examples. It says, "Open your favourite IDE, the ICanToggleACell.java class will allow itself to run as a JUnit test." In Eclipse, JUnit is reporting "no tests found."The http://jbehave.org is just a wordpress facade to multiplereference guides, but it may be better to replace it with a static frontend to that it'd be easier to navigate to docs and control the contents of the welcome page.If I may be so bold, I'd suggest that a reader focus might be more helpful. Think about the goals in the minds of the users who come to the site, and offer pages for those goals. For example, I would expect http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/running-examples.html to tell mehow to execute the examples, preferably in different ways (e.g.from Maven, Ant, JUnit, Command Line). Instead, the information is rather sketchy. For example, it took a small note (not prominently displayed) on from http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/dependencies.html thatlead me to the POM file that downloaded the dependencies. (Moredependencies than I needed for getting started, even though a few failed. I suspect obsolescence in the POM.) I've spent much time wandering the website looking for tidbits of information that might prove helpful.For the examples, they are mostly using Maven but there are also Ant-based ones: http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/examples-modules.html In any case, to answer your question: yes, you can run the stories in multiple ways: either in IDE or in CLI, via Ant or Maven. You've been able to run the Story via JUnit in IDE. Have a look at the examples for running in CLI.I'm not yet able to run this story via JUnit in the IDE. That's why I'm asking here. Which of the examples shows running in CLI? I don't see anything in the gameoflife example that makes that clear to me. - GeorgeCheers On 08/12/2011 15:39, George Dinwiddie wrote:I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to get started with JBehave, when I find Cucumber so easy to use. Mostly it's my unfamiliarity with Maven, but some of it seems to be difficulty in finding current information on jbehave.org. Please bear with my ignorant questions and help me move forward. I've got the gameoflife example loaded into Eclipse. It compiles and runs the junit tests. 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