Andreas: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: switch to github From: Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sat 18 Aug 2012 12:32:49 AM CDT > The process Andrei described is really the best way to get things > going tbh since they make the review process for us ways easier. great; please review: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1746
> Besides I think the real problem behind the entire github/pullreqest > discussion is the problem that there's no really good > jira/patch-based-review combination available at ASF. But > independently this is a point which will take another bunch of years > to get corrected if you follow the core lists. The entire > git/svn/review/... discussion is going on there for years by now with > quite some bashing... curious about the outcome :-) but karaf project does not need to wait till planetary madness subsides:-) can you please ask your ASF management, upstream: if you simply reverse git->svn replication direction and change nothing else, are you still ASF-compliant? > > Kind regards, > Andreas cheers, Andrei > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> wrote: >> @4) no need for that; once you're through the review process the apply >> happens within 24 hours (different time/work zones :-)). BTW, your >> pull request is almost through the pipe. Just waiting for two minor >> corrections and a new patch at the jira issue to get it in :-) >> >> Kind regards, >> Andreas >> >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Andrei Pozolotin >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> no, I have improvement on that git.html: >>> >>> 1) do all your work on github mirror via fork/pull >>> >>> 2) discuss your github pulls on ASF jira >>> >>> 3) when jira is accepted, do the "git format-patch origin/trunk" >>> and attach patch.txt to the jira with ASF grant check box >>> >>> 4) now pray to your favorite ASF committer to really accept the patch >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: switch to github >>> From: Johan Edstrom <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Fri 17 Aug 2012 06:52:45 PM CDT >>> >>> It is really clear. >>> http://www.apache.org/dev/git.html >>> >>> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Brian Topping <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> When you are not committer on a project, and you contribute a patch, you >>> have to explicitly grant your license to ASF. To do that, you just mention >>> it by checking "Grant ASF" when attaching the file to the Jira. >>> >>> Yes, i appreciate that, but I thought we were trying to clarify whether >>> Github pulls were acceptable means of providing patches. It seems that they >>> are not acceptable for non-committers, so the fact that there are pull >>> requests obscures the fact that those pull requests are unusable and >>> therefore not statistically relevant. >>> >>> Having said that, it would be good to concretely clarify that Github pulls >>> are not acceptable for non-committers, avoiding any interpretation that >>> Github is a means by which non-committers can provide value to the project. >>> It's important because it is actually very difficult in my experience to get >>> patches applied, which dissuades people from contributing and makes it >>> appear that nobody is interested when there may in fact be many folks >>> interested in contributing but find it too unproductive to do so. These >>> misinterpretations are very damaging to a project since valuable >>> contributions (however small or unimportant to one group) are never made, >>> and folks of a mindset similar to the person who never contributed do not in >>> turn ever start using the project because these features never made it in. >>> >>> This is very much an anti-pattern in ASF projects, but I've found it pretty >>> common as well, so please don't interpret this as me calling out Karaf in >>> particular. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>>
