Hi Jean-Baptiste, I'm not speaking about nightlies/snapshot's, but real Maven Central releases (with a X.Y.Z+1 version), continuous delivery aims to release in production, not in a testing/snapshots env.
The challenge is in deciding when to fire a release: a major/blocking Jira resolved, a code quality reached, 4 weeks after the last... And how to ensure the stability of the product (80% test coverage and 90 Itest?). It's more than a nightly, as it is not a daily baked product and more a decided one, the thing is that it is fully automated. Regards 2014-10-08 11:46 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>: > Hi Charlie, > > We already have Jenkins and nightly builds. But I'm not sure a lot of > people uses/tests the SNAPSHOTs. > > Regards > JB > > On 10/08/2014 11:33 AM, Charlie Mordant wrote: > >> Hi, >> +1 for a short lifecycle. >> >> I'm not totally for what I'll ask but it's an alternative solution: >> What about continuous deployement? >> A Jenkins build pipeline that will trigger Jira ticket resolution then >> releasing Karaf if all tests pass? >> I really don't know if it's a viable solution, but it would make the >> thing :). >> >> Best regards, >> >> 2014-10-08 10:46 GMT+02:00 Jamie G. <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> +1 >> >> There will always be another upstream fix to wait for, a short Karaf >> update cycle seems to be the best approach to avoiding extended >> delays. >> >> --J >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Achim Nierbeck >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm in big favor of having a hard release cycle on 6 weeks >> (minimum I'd >> > actually prefer 4 ;) ) >> > Regarding the thoughts about 3party dependencies, actually it's >> the reason >> > we don't get our own bugfixes out fast right now. >> > Actually I'd say screw it. No more waiting for 3rd party >> dependencies ... >> > get the stuff out fast cause 4-6 weeks later you have the next >> > release picking up the issue. >> > >> > regards, Achim >> > >> > >> > 2014-10-08 8:18 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> >> >> >> That's why we have an extend of 2 weeks to deal with other >> projects. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> JB >> >> >> >> On 10/08/2014 08:16 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Generally I agree that we should aim for such a cycle. >> >>> I only hope it is possible as we depend a lot on other projects >> that we >> >>> bundle. So a lot of the time a release waits on fixes or >> releases in >> >>> upstream projects. >> >>> >> >>> Christian >> >>> >> >>> Am 08.10.2014 07:52, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Onofré: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi all, >> >>>> >> >>>> Users complained about the variable and long delays between >> Karaf >> >>>> releases. It's a fair comment and it's something that we have to >> >>>> improve. >> >>>> >> >>>> I propose the following new policy about the releases cycle: >> >>>> - for "active" branches (3.0.x and 2.4.x), I propose a release >> every 6 >> >>>> weeks, with maximum extend to 8 weeks. >> >>>> - for "eol" and "maintenance" branches (2.2.x and 2.3.x), it's >> "on >> >>>> demand", no strong cycle there. >> >>>> >> >>>> WDYT ? >> >>>> >> >>>> If everybody agrees, I will update the releases schedule page >> on the >> >>>> website. >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards >> >>>> JB >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Apache Member >> > Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC >> > OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> >> Committer & >> > Project Lead >> > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> >> > >> > Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Charlie Mordant >> >> Full OSGI/EE stack made with Karaf: >> https://github.com/OsgiliathEnterprise/net.osgiliath.parent >> > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > [email protected] > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com > -- Charlie Mordant Full OSGI/EE stack made with Karaf: https://github.com/OsgiliathEnterprise/net.osgiliath.parent
