+1

And as for third-party dependencies I think there are two possible scenarios:

1) a library-upgrade fixes an issue that was already present in the previous release:
        --> screw it and postpone the lib-upgrade for the next-release
2) a library-upgrade causes a regression, i.e. a bug that was *not* present in the previous release:
        --> revert the lib-upgrade and release without the library-upgrade

kind regards,
Christoph


On 08/10/14 10:46, Jamie G. wrote:
+1

There will always be another upstream fix to wait for, a short Karaf
update cycle seems to be the best approach to avoiding extended
delays.

--J

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I'm in big favor of having a hard release cycle on 6 weeks (minimum I'd
actually prefer 4 ;) )
Regarding the thoughts about 3party dependencies, actually it's the reason
we don't get our own bugfixes out fast right now.
Actually I'd say screw it. No more waiting for 3rd party dependencies ...
get the stuff out fast cause 4-6 weeks later you have the next
release picking up the issue.

regards, Achim


2014-10-08 8:18 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>:

That's why we have an extend of 2 weeks to deal with other projects.

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2014 08:16 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:

Generally I agree that we should aim for such a cycle.
I only hope it is possible as we depend a lot on other projects that we
bundle. So a lot of the time a release waits on fixes or releases in
upstream projects.

Christian

Am 08.10.2014 07:52, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Onofré:

Hi all,

Users complained about the variable and long delays between Karaf
releases. It's a fair comment and it's something that we have to
improve.

I propose the following new policy about the releases cycle:
- for "active" branches (3.0.x and 2.4.x), I propose a release every 6
weeks, with maximum extend to 8 weeks.
- for "eol" and "maintenance" branches (2.2.x and 2.3.x), it's "on
demand", no strong cycle there.

WDYT ?

If everybody agrees, I will update the releases schedule page on the
website.

Regards
JB




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