Hi David,

It would be great if bndtools is able to "generate" the features.

I know that Christian discussed with bndtools guys about that, and I'm also jumping in bndtools to help.

WDYT ?

Regards
JB

On 11/26/2015 01:36 AM, David Leangen wrote:

Hi,

If it’s any help, I am also using bndtools in Eclipse/gradle. I am in a
greenfield environment, so it is probably easier for me.

Thanks to the help of the kind people in this community, I was able to
get my release process working. I do this by releasing my bundles from
bndtools, then having Karaf pull in the bundles from that repository. I
actually like this way of passing the baton, as it nicely decouples my
development environment from my deployment environment, using the
standard OBR repository as the intermediary.

My only remaining challenge is, since Karaf is centred around features,
to figure out how to convert my bnd “application” bundle into a feature.
This is the bundle that pulls in all the other necessary bundles based
on direct and transient requirements. Clearly, the “application” bundle
performs the same function as a Karaf feature, so this would be an
interesting avenue to explore.

If possible this week I will experiment with adding a “Karaf Feature”
capability to my application bundle, so that when the repository is
installed, any bundle with this capability will be added to a
corresponding feature, which would also get installed into the system.
If this works as I expect, and if the community is interested, I could
try to submit a pull request.

Getting back to the title, “Bndtools & Karaf : the right way”, I think
that this would be the “right” way to do it. :-)


Cheers,
=David


On Nov 26, 2015, at 4:29 AM, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Yes agreed,

  I have found that my reasons for leaving the maven-bundle-plugin
were artificial.  You do not need a custom package type because you
can map the lifecycle steps yourself.  You can still configure it for
a bnd file and even if it imports by default you can manually
configure it to exclude by default and set all your imports.  What I
was trying to get across was that there are a lot of great options out
there for how to configure your environment and there is no "the right
way".  In my opinion karaf is maven centered where as bnd is centered
on eclipse and its workspaces but they are coming together nicely.  It
may take some time to find the tools you like but there are a lot of
really smart people out there that can help you get just the
environment you like.


David Daniel


On 2015-11-25 14:20, Achim Nierbeck wrote:

Hi,
just for the record with the maven-bundle-plugin you can also use the
bnd file, just configure the pom accordingly.
regards, Achim

2015-11-25 16:51 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:

    I think different people handle things in different ways.  Most
    people who work on karaf seem to use the maven bundle plugin with
    pax-exam for testing.  The maven-bundle-plugin uses bnd tools
    underneath and just moves the configuration into your pom file
    instead of .bnd or .bndrun file.  What I have been moving to as a
    very beginner in karaf is the bnd-maven-plugin and
    bnd-indexer-plugin.  These allow for tighter integration with bnd
    tools but are really alpha in bnd tool 3.1  You have to get the
    builds from bnd tools ci and they don't have support for bnd
    tools running and packaging.  I also find myself taking all the
    features that I use from karaf and coping the information in
    there to bnd files so I can run test and package from bnd tools
    which is a lot of duplication of work.  Bnd Tools is working on
    adding better maven support but they are really built up around
    eclipse and gradle at this time.  I think you will have to find
    what works for you and what features you like.


    David Daniel


    On 2015-11-25 09:41, deadbrain wrote:

        Hi all  Karaf gurus,
        just a little question dealing with BndTools, I am supposed to refactor
        an existing Spring DM application into an OSGi + Blueprint application
        to be deployed inside ServiceMix (3.4 or 4). As a consequence I would
        like to use Bndtools but launching Karaf rather than the defaut Gogo
        shell would be more convenient.
          What is the best way to do that ?
        I am supposed to write or reuse an ApplicationFactory ? I found a couple
        of implementations in github (ready to use ?)
        Is there any other  valuable option?

        Kind regards
        Jerome



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