To date we have referred to the GPU/CPU/CUDA as 'pluggable native-solvers'. 'plugable backends' are the Spark - Flink -H20- whatever.
With the advent of both, I could see the confusion and we may want to rethink the naming as part of of this too. Trevor Grant Data Scientist https://github.com/rawkintrevo http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo http://trevorgrant.org *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." -Virgil* On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Nikolai Sakharnykh <nsakharn...@nvidia.com > wrote: > I guess we might have different interpretation of a backend. So just to > avoid any confusion in my world (coming from accelerating applications on > GPUs) the backends would be CUDA, OpenCL, OpenMP and JVM. I think it > definitely makes sense to advertise GPU support on the front page, along > with JVM and/or OpenMP for CPUs. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suneel Marthi [mailto:smar...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 11:13 AM > To: mahout <d...@mahout.apache.org> > Cc: user@mahout.apache.org > Subject: Re: Marketing > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <dlie...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> > wrote: > > > > > The multiple backend support is such a waste of time IMO. The DSL > > > and GPU support is super important and should be made even more > > > distributed. The current (as I understand it) single threaded GPU > > > per VM is only the first step in what will make Mahout important for a > long time to come. > > > > > > > This seems self contradicting a bit. Multiple backends is the only > > thing that remedies it for me. By that i mean both distributed (i/o) > > backends and the in-memory. > > > > Good CPU and GPU plugins will be important, as well as communication > > layer alternatives to spark. Spark is not working out well for > > interconnected problems, and H20 and Flink, well, I'd just forget > > about them. I'd certainly drop H20 for now. > > > FWIW, the H2O backend is more stable than the F%*&k backend, best to drop > both. > > > > > But ability to plug in new communication backend primitives seems to > > be critical in my experience, as well as variety of cpu/gpu chipset > > support. (I do use both in-memory and i/o custom backends that IMO are > > a must). > > > > In that sense, it is super-important that custom backends are easy to > > plug (even if you are absolutely legitimately dissatisfied with the > > existing ones). > > > > > > > Think of Mahout in 5 years what will be important? H2O? Hadoop > Mapreduce? > > > Flink? I’ll stake my dollar on no. GPUs yes and up the stakes. > > > Streaming online learning (kappa style) yes but not sure Mahout is > > > made for this right now. > > > > > > Or if we are talking about web site revamp +1, I’d be happy to > > > upgrade my section and have only held off waiting to see a redesign > > > or moving to Jekyll. > > > > > > As to a new mascot, ok, but the old one fits the name. We tried > > sub-naming > > > Mahout-Samsara to symbolize the changing nature and rebirth of the > > project, > > > maybe we should drop the name Mahout altogether. the name Mahout, > > > like > > the > > > blue man, is not relevant to the project anymore and maybe renaming, > > > is good for marketing. > > > > > > On Mar 24, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Nikolai Sakharnykh > > > <nsakharn...@nvidia.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Agree that the website feels outdated. I would add Samsara code > > > example > > on > > > the front page, list of key algorithms implemented, supported > > > backends, github & download links, and cut down the news part > > > especially towards > > the > > > end with flat release numbers and dates. Also probably reorganize > > > the > > tabs. > > > > > > If we go with honey badger as a mascot do we have any ideas on the > > > logo itself? Honey badger biting/eating a snake?) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Trevor Grant [mailto:trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:53 PM > > > To: d...@mahout.apache.org > > > Cc: user@mahout.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Marketing > > > > > > A student once asked his teacher, "Master, what is enlightenment?" > > > > > > The master replied, "When hungry, eat. When tired, sleep." > > > > > > Sounds like the honey badger to me... > > > > > > Trevor Grant > > > Data Scientist > > > https://github.com/rawkintrevo > > > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo > > > http://trevorgrant.org > > > > > > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." > > > -Virgil* > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > The little blue man (the mahout) was reborn (samsara) as a > > honey-badger? > > > > He must be close indeed to reaching true enlightenment, or is that > > > Buddhism? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Palumbo <ap....@outlook.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 on revamp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > > From: Trevor Grant <trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com> > > > > Date: 03/23/2017 12:36 PM (GMT-08:00) > > > > To: user@mahout.apache.org, d...@mahout.apache.org > > > > Subject: Marketing > > > > > > > > Hey user and dev, > > > > > > > > With 0.13.0 the Apache Mahout project has added some significant > > updates. > > > > > > > > The website is starting to feel 'dated' I think it could use a > reboot. > > > > > > > > The blue person riding the elephant has less signifigance in > > > > Mahout-Samsara's modular backends. > > > > > > > > Would like to open the floor to discussion on website reboot (and > > > > who might be willing to take on such a project), as well as new > mascot. > > > > > > > > To kick off- in an offline talk there was the idea of A honey > > > > badger (bc honey-badger don't care, just like mahout don't care > > > > what back end or native solvers you are using, and also bc a cobra > > > > bites a honey badger and he takes a little nap then wakes up and > > > > finishes eating the cobra. honey badger eats snakes, and does all > > > > the work while the other animals pick up the scraps. > > > > see this short documentary on the honey badger: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg ) ^^audio not safe for > > > > work > > > > > > > > Con: its almost tooo jokey. > > > > > > > > Other idea: are coy-wolfs. > > > > > > > > Trevor Grant > > > > Data Scientist > > > > https://github.com/rawkintrevo > > > > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo > > > > http://trevorgrant.org > > > > > > > > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." > > > > -Virgil* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----------------------- > > > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) > > > and may contain confidential information. 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