Hi Karl,

there are no errors in the Tomcat logs. Currently, the Manifold log
contains only the job log messages (<property
name="org.apache.manifoldcf.jobs" value="ALL"/>). I include two log
snippets, one from a normal run, and one where the job got repeated two
times. I noticed the thread sequence "Finisher - Job reset - Job
notification" when the job finally terminates, and the thread sequence
"Finisher - Job notification" when the job gets restarted again instead of
terminating.


DEBUG 2014-02-03 15:59:52,130 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391439582108,
and now it is 1391439592119
DEBUG 2014-02-03 15:59:52,131 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
within interval 1391439582108 to 1391439592119
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391439592120,
and now it is 1391439602151
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391439592120 to 1391439602151
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
within run window at 1391439602151 ms. (which starts at 1391439600000 ms.)
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,288 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
for job 1385573203052
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:11,319 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for startup
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:12,719 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
started
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:30,234 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for shutdown
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:32,995 (Job reset thread) - Job 1385573203052 now
completed
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:37,541 (Job notification thread) - Found job
1385573203052 in need of notification
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:47,105 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391440412615,
and now it is 1391440427102
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:47,105 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
within interval 1391440412615 to 1391440427102


DEBUG 2014-02-03 17:59:54,078 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446784053,
and now it is 1391446794074
DEBUG 2014-02-03 17:59:54,078 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
within interval 1391446784053 to 1391446794074
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,109 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
and now it is 1391446804106
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,109 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391446794075 to 1391446804106
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,110 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
within run window at 1391446804106 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,178 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
for job 1385573203052
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:11,710 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for startup
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:13,408 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
started
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:04,286 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for shutdown
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:06,777 (Job notification thread) - Found job
1385573203052 in need of notification
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
and now it is 1391447647733
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391446794075 to 1391447647733
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
within run window at 1391447647733 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,744 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
and now it is 1391447657740
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,744 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391446794075 to 1391447657740
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,744 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
within run window at 1391447657740 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,899 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
for job 1385573203052
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:26,787 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for startup
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:28,636 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
started
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:45,387 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for shutdown
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:52,737 (Job notification thread) - Found job
1385573203052 in need of notification
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,356 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
and now it is 1391448479353
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,358 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391446794075 to 1391448479353
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,358 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
within run window at 1391448479353 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,430 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
for job 1385573203052
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:28:09,309 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for startup
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:28:10,727 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
started
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:18,202 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
for shutdown
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:23,636 (Job reset thread) - Job 1385573203052 now
completed
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:25,368 (Job notification thread) - Found job
1385573203052 in need of notification
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:32,403 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391449283114,
and now it is 1391449292400
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:32,403 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
within interval 1391449283114 to 1391449292400


Do you need another log output?

Best,
Florian

> Also, what does the log have to say?  If there is an error aborting the
> job, there should be some record of it in the manifoldcf.log.
>
> Thanks,
> Karl
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Karl Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Florian,
>>
>> Please run the job manually, when outside the scheduling window or with
>> the scheduling off.  What is the reason for the job abort?
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Florian Schmedding <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Karl,
>>>
>>> yes, I've coincidentally seen "Aborted" in the end time column when I
>>> refreshed the job status just after the number of active documents was
>>> zero. At the next refresh the job was starting up. After looking in the
>>> history I found out that it even started a third time. You can see the
>>> history of a single day below (job continue, end, start, stop, unwait,
>>> wait). The start method is "Start at beginning of schedule window". Job
>>> invocation is "complete". Hop count mode is "Delete unreachable
>>> documents".
>>>
>>> 02.03.2014 18:41        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 18:28        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 18:14        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 18:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 17:49        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 17:27        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 17:13        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 17:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 16:13        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 16:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 15:41        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 15:27        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 15:14        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 15:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 14:13        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 14:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 13:13        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 13:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 12:27        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 12:14        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 12:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 11:13        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 11:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 10:13        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 10:00        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 09:29        job end
>>> 02.03.2014 09:14        job start
>>> 02.03.2014 09:00        job start
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Florian
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Florian,
>>> >
>>> > Jobs don't just abort randomly.  Are you sure that the job aborted?
>>> Or
>>> > did
>>> > it just restart?
>>> >
>>> > As for "is this normal", it depends on how you have created your job.
>>>  If
>>> > you selected the "Start within schedule window" selection, MCF will
>>> > restart
>>> > the job whenever it finishes and run it until the end of the
>>> scheduling
>>> > window.
>>> >
>>> > Karl
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Florian Schmedding <
>>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Karl,
>>> >>
>>> >> I've just observed that the job was started according to its
>>> schedule
>>> >> and
>>> >> crawled all documents correctly (I've chosen to re-ingest all
>>> documents
>>> >> before the run). However, after finishing the last document (zero
>>> active
>>> >> documents) it was somehow aborted and restarted immediately. Is this
>>> an
>>> >> expected behavior?
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >> Florian
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi Florian,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Based on this schedule, your crawls will be able to start whenever
>>> the
>>> >> > hour
>>> >> > turns.  So they can start every hour on the hour.  If the last
>>> crawl
>>> >> > crossed an hour boundary, the next crawl will start immediately, I
>>> >> > believe.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Karl
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Florian Schmedding <
>>> >> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi Karl,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> these are the values:
>>> >> >> Priority:       5       Start method:   Start at beginning of
>>> >> schedule
>>> >> >> window
>>> >> >> Schedule type:  Scan every document once        Minimum recrawl
>>> >> >> interval:
>>> >> >>       Not
>>> >> >> applicable
>>> >> >> Expiration interval:    Not applicable  Reseed interval:
>>> Not
>>> >> >> applicable
>>> >> >> Scheduled time:         Any day of week at 12 am 1 am 2 am 3 am 4
>>> am
>>> >> 5
>>> >> >> am
>>> >> >> 6 am 7
>>> >> >> am 8 am 9 am 10 am 11 am 12 pm 1 pm 2 pm 3 pm 4 pm 5 pm 6 pm 7 pm
>>> 8
>>> >> pm 9
>>> >> >> pm 10 pm 11 pm
>>> >> >> Maximum run time:       No limit        Job invocation:
>>> >> Complete
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Maybe it is because I've changed the job from continuous crawling
>>> to
>>> >> >> this
>>> >> >> schedule. I started it a few times manually, too. I couldn't
>>> notice
>>> >> >> anything strange in the job setup or in the respective entries in
>>> the
>>> >> >> database.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Regards,
>>> >> >> Florian
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Hi Florian,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I was unable to reproduce the behavior you described.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Could you view your job, and post a screen shot of that page?
>>> I
>>> >> want
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> > see what your schedule record(s) look like.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> > Karl
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Karl Wright
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Hi Florian,
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I've never noted this behavior before.  I'll see if I can
>>> >> reproduce
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> >> here.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Karl
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Florian Schmedding <
>>> >> >> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> Hi Karl,
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> the scheduled job seems to work as expecetd. However, it runs
>>> two
>>> >> >> >>> times:
>>> >> >> >>> It starts at the beginning of the scheduled time, finishes,
>>> and
>>> >> >> >>> immediately starts again. After finishing the second run it
>>> waits
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >> >>> the
>>> >> >> >>> next scheduled time. Why does it run two times? The start
>>> method
>>> >> is
>>> >> >> >>> "Start
>>> >> >> >>> at beginning of schedule window".
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Yes, you're right about the checking guarantee. Currently,
>>> our
>>> >> >> interval
>>> >> >> >>> is
>>> >> >> >>> long enough for a complete crawler run.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Best,
>>> >> >> >>> Florian
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> > Hi Florian,
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > It is impossible to *guarantee* that a document will be
>>> >> checked,
>>> >> >> >>> because
>>> >> >> >>> > if
>>> >> >> >>> > load on the crawler is high enough, it will fall behind.
>>> But
>>> I
>>> >> >> will
>>> >> >> >>> look
>>> >> >> >>> > into adding the feature you request.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Karl
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Florian Schmedding <
>>> >> >> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> Hi Karl,
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> yes, in our case it is necessary to make sure that new
>>> >> documents
>>> >> >> are
>>> >> >> >>> >> discovered and indexed within a certain interval. I have
>>> >> created
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >>> >> feature
>>> >> >> >>> >> request on that. In the meantime we will try to use a
>>> >> scheduled
>>> >> >> job
>>> >> >> >>> >> instead.
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks for your help,
>>> >> >> >>> >> Florian
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> > Hi Florian,
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > What you are seeing is "dynamic crawling" behavior.  The
>>> >> time
>>> >> >> >>> between
>>> >> >> >>> >> > refetches of a document is based on the history of
>>> fetches
>>> >> of
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >>> >> > document.  The recrawl interval is the initial time
>>> between
>>> >> >> >>> document
>>> >> >> >>> >> > fetches, but if a document does not change, the interval
>>> for
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >>> >> document
>>> >> >> >>> >> > increases according to a formula.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > I would need to look at the code to be able to give you
>>> the
>>> >> >> >>> precise
>>> >> >> >>> >> > formula, but if you need a limit on the amount of time
>>> >> between
>>> >> >> >>> >> document
>>> >> >> >>> >> > fetch attempts, I suggest you create a ticket and I will
>>> >> look
>>> >> >> into
>>> >> >> >>> >> adding
>>> >> >> >>> >> > that as a feature.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> >>> >> > Karl
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Florian Schmedding <
>>> >> >> >>> >> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Hello,
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> the parameters reseed interval and recrawl interval of
>>> a
>>> >> >> >>> continuous
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> crawling job are not quite clear to me. The
>>> documentation
>>> >> >> tells
>>> >> >> >>> that
>>> >> >> >>> >> the
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> reseed interval is the time after which the seeds are
>>> >> checked
>>> >> >> >>> again,
>>> >> >> >>> >> and
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> the recrawl interval is the time after which a document
>>> is
>>> >> >> >>> checked
>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> changes.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> However, we observed that the recrawl interval for a
>>> >> document
>>> >> >> >>> >> increases
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> after each check. On the other hand, the reseed
>>> interval
>>> >> seems
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >>> be
>>> >> >> >>> >> set
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> up correctly in the database metadata about the seed
>>> >> >> documents.
>>> >> >> >>> Yet
>>> >> >> >>> >> the
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> web server does not receive requests at each time the
>>> >> interval
>>> >> >> >>> >> elapses
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> but
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> only after several intervals have elapsed.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> We are using a web connector. The web server does not
>>> tell
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> >>> client
>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> cache the documents. Any help would be appreciated.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Best regards,
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Florian
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
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