Hi Florian,

I do not expect errors to appear in the tomcat log.

But this is interesting:

Good:
>>>>>>
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391439592120,
and now it is 1391439602151
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391439592120 to 1391439602151
...
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:47,105 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391440412615,
and now it is 1391440427102
DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:47,105 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
within interval 1391440412615 to 1391440427102
<<<<<<
"last checked" time for job is updated.

Bad:
>>>>>>
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,109 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
and now it is 1391446804106
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,109 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391446794075 to 1391446804106
...
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
and now it is 1391447647733
DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
within interval 1391446794075 to 1391447647733
<<<<<<
Note that the "last checked" time is NOT updated.

I don't understand why, in one case, the "last checked" time is being
updated for the job, and is not in another case.  I will look to see if
there is any way in the code that this can happen.

Karl



On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Florian Schmedding <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Karl,
>
> there are no errors in the Tomcat logs. Currently, the Manifold log
> contains only the job log messages (<property
> name="org.apache.manifoldcf.jobs" value="ALL"/>). I include two log
> snippets, one from a normal run, and one where the job got repeated two
> times. I noticed the thread sequence "Finisher - Job reset - Job
> notification" when the job finally terminates, and the thread sequence
> "Finisher - Job notification" when the job gets restarted again instead of
> terminating.
>
>
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 15:59:52,130 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391439582108,
> and now it is 1391439592119
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 15:59:52,131 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
> within interval 1391439582108 to 1391439592119
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391439592120,
> and now it is 1391439602151
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
> within interval 1391439592120 to 1391439602151
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,153 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
> within run window at 1391439602151 ms. (which starts at 1391439600000 ms.)
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:02,288 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
> for job 1385573203052
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:11,319 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for startup
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:00:12,719 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
> started
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:30,234 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for shutdown
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:32,995 (Job reset thread) - Job 1385573203052 now
> completed
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:37,541 (Job notification thread) - Found job
> 1385573203052 in need of notification
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:47,105 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391440412615,
> and now it is 1391440427102
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 16:13:47,105 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
> within interval 1391440412615 to 1391440427102
>
>
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 17:59:54,078 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446784053,
> and now it is 1391446794074
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 17:59:54,078 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
> within interval 1391446784053 to 1391446794074
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,109 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
> and now it is 1391446804106
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,109 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
> within interval 1391446794075 to 1391446804106
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,110 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
> within run window at 1391446804106 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:04,178 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
> for job 1385573203052
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:11,710 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for startup
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:00:13,408 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
> started
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:04,286 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for shutdown
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:06,777 (Job notification thread) - Found job
> 1385573203052 in need of notification
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
> and now it is 1391447647733
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
> within interval 1391446794075 to 1391447647733
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:07,736 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
> within run window at 1391447647733 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,744 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
> and now it is 1391447657740
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,744 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
> within interval 1391446794075 to 1391447657740
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,744 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
> within run window at 1391447657740 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:17,899 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
> for job 1385573203052
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:26,787 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for startup
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:14:28,636 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
> started
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:45,387 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for shutdown
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:52,737 (Job notification thread) - Found job
> 1385573203052 in need of notification
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,356 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391446794075,
> and now it is 1391448479353
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,358 (Job start thread) -  Time match FOUND
> within interval 1391446794075 to 1391448479353
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,358 (Job start thread) - Job '1385573203052' is
> within run window at 1391448479353 ms. (which starts at 1391446800000 ms.)
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:27:59,430 (Job start thread) - Signalled for job start
> for job 1385573203052
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:28:09,309 (Startup thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for startup
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:28:10,727 (Startup thread) - Job 1385573203052 is now
> started
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:18,202 (Finisher thread) - Marked job 1385573203052
> for shutdown
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:23,636 (Job reset thread) - Job 1385573203052 now
> completed
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:25,368 (Job notification thread) - Found job
> 1385573203052 in need of notification
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:32,403 (Job start thread) - Checking if job
> 1385573203052 needs to be started; it was last checked at 1391449283114,
> and now it is 1391449292400
> DEBUG 2014-02-03 18:41:32,403 (Job start thread) -  No time match found
> within interval 1391449283114 to 1391449292400
>
>
> Do you need another log output?
>
> Best,
> Florian
>
> > Also, what does the log have to say?  If there is an error aborting the
> > job, there should be some record of it in the manifoldcf.log.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Karl Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Florian,
> >>
> >> Please run the job manually, when outside the scheduling window or with
> >> the scheduling off.  What is the reason for the job abort?
> >>
> >> Karl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Florian Schmedding <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Karl,
> >>>
> >>> yes, I've coincidentally seen "Aborted" in the end time column when I
> >>> refreshed the job status just after the number of active documents was
> >>> zero. At the next refresh the job was starting up. After looking in the
> >>> history I found out that it even started a third time. You can see the
> >>> history of a single day below (job continue, end, start, stop, unwait,
> >>> wait). The start method is "Start at beginning of schedule window". Job
> >>> invocation is "complete". Hop count mode is "Delete unreachable
> >>> documents".
> >>>
> >>> 02.03.2014 18:41        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 18:28        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 18:14        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 18:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 17:49        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 17:27        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 17:13        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 17:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 16:13        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 16:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 15:41        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 15:27        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 15:14        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 15:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 14:13        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 14:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 13:13        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 13:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 12:27        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 12:14        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 12:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 11:13        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 11:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 10:13        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 10:00        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 09:29        job end
> >>> 02.03.2014 09:14        job start
> >>> 02.03.2014 09:00        job start
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Florian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Florian,
> >>> >
> >>> > Jobs don't just abort randomly.  Are you sure that the job aborted?
> >>> Or
> >>> > did
> >>> > it just restart?
> >>> >
> >>> > As for "is this normal", it depends on how you have created your job.
> >>>  If
> >>> > you selected the "Start within schedule window" selection, MCF will
> >>> > restart
> >>> > the job whenever it finishes and run it until the end of the
> >>> scheduling
> >>> > window.
> >>> >
> >>> > Karl
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Florian Schmedding <
> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi Karl,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I've just observed that the job was started according to its
> >>> schedule
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> crawled all documents correctly (I've chosen to re-ingest all
> >>> documents
> >>> >> before the run). However, after finishing the last document (zero
> >>> active
> >>> >> documents) it was somehow aborted and restarted immediately. Is this
> >>> an
> >>> >> expected behavior?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Best,
> >>> >> Florian
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > Hi Florian,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Based on this schedule, your crawls will be able to start whenever
> >>> the
> >>> >> > hour
> >>> >> > turns.  So they can start every hour on the hour.  If the last
> >>> crawl
> >>> >> > crossed an hour boundary, the next crawl will start immediately, I
> >>> >> > believe.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Karl
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Florian Schmedding <
> >>> >> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Hi Karl,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> these are the values:
> >>> >> >> Priority:       5       Start method:   Start at beginning of
> >>> >> schedule
> >>> >> >> window
> >>> >> >> Schedule type:  Scan every document once        Minimum recrawl
> >>> >> >> interval:
> >>> >> >>       Not
> >>> >> >> applicable
> >>> >> >> Expiration interval:    Not applicable  Reseed interval:
> >>> Not
> >>> >> >> applicable
> >>> >> >> Scheduled time:         Any day of week at 12 am 1 am 2 am 3 am 4
> >>> am
> >>> >> 5
> >>> >> >> am
> >>> >> >> 6 am 7
> >>> >> >> am 8 am 9 am 10 am 11 am 12 pm 1 pm 2 pm 3 pm 4 pm 5 pm 6 pm 7 pm
> >>> 8
> >>> >> pm 9
> >>> >> >> pm 10 pm 11 pm
> >>> >> >> Maximum run time:       No limit        Job invocation:
> >>> >> Complete
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Maybe it is because I've changed the job from continuous crawling
> >>> to
> >>> >> >> this
> >>> >> >> schedule. I started it a few times manually, too. I couldn't
> >>> notice
> >>> >> >> anything strange in the job setup or in the respective entries in
> >>> the
> >>> >> >> database.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> Florian
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > Hi Florian,
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > I was unable to reproduce the behavior you described.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Could you view your job, and post a screen shot of that page?
> >>> I
> >>> >> want
> >>> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> > see what your schedule record(s) look like.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >> >> > Karl
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Karl Wright
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> Hi Florian,
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> I've never noted this behavior before.  I'll see if I can
> >>> >> reproduce
> >>> >> >> it
> >>> >> >> >> here.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Karl
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Florian Schmedding <
> >>> >> >> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> Hi Karl,
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> the scheduled job seems to work as expecetd. However, it runs
> >>> two
> >>> >> >> >>> times:
> >>> >> >> >>> It starts at the beginning of the scheduled time, finishes,
> >>> and
> >>> >> >> >>> immediately starts again. After finishing the second run it
> >>> waits
> >>> >> >> for
> >>> >> >> >>> the
> >>> >> >> >>> next scheduled time. Why does it run two times? The start
> >>> method
> >>> >> is
> >>> >> >> >>> "Start
> >>> >> >> >>> at beginning of schedule window".
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> Yes, you're right about the checking guarantee. Currently,
> >>> our
> >>> >> >> interval
> >>> >> >> >>> is
> >>> >> >> >>> long enough for a complete crawler run.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> Best,
> >>> >> >> >>> Florian
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> > Hi Florian,
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> > It is impossible to *guarantee* that a document will be
> >>> >> checked,
> >>> >> >> >>> because
> >>> >> >> >>> > if
> >>> >> >> >>> > load on the crawler is high enough, it will fall behind.
> >>> But
> >>> I
> >>> >> >> will
> >>> >> >> >>> look
> >>> >> >> >>> > into adding the feature you request.
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> > Karl
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Florian Schmedding <
> >>> >> >> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi Karl,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> yes, in our case it is necessary to make sure that new
> >>> >> documents
> >>> >> >> are
> >>> >> >> >>> >> discovered and indexed within a certain interval. I have
> >>> >> created
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> >>> >> feature
> >>> >> >> >>> >> request on that. In the meantime we will try to use a
> >>> >> scheduled
> >>> >> >> job
> >>> >> >> >>> >> instead.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks for your help,
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Florian
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > Hi Florian,
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > What you are seeing is "dynamic crawling" behavior.  The
> >>> >> time
> >>> >> >> >>> between
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > refetches of a document is based on the history of
> >>> fetches
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> that
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > document.  The recrawl interval is the initial time
> >>> between
> >>> >> >> >>> document
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > fetches, but if a document does not change, the interval
> >>> for
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> >> document
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > increases according to a formula.
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > I would need to look at the code to be able to give you
> >>> the
> >>> >> >> >>> precise
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > formula, but if you need a limit on the amount of time
> >>> >> between
> >>> >> >> >>> >> document
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > fetch attempts, I suggest you create a ticket and I will
> >>> >> look
> >>> >> >> into
> >>> >> >> >>> >> adding
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > that as a feature.
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > Karl
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Florian Schmedding <
> >>> >> >> >>> >> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Hello,
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> the parameters reseed interval and recrawl interval of
> >>> a
> >>> >> >> >>> continuous
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> crawling job are not quite clear to me. The
> >>> documentation
> >>> >> >> tells
> >>> >> >> >>> that
> >>> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> reseed interval is the time after which the seeds are
> >>> >> checked
> >>> >> >> >>> again,
> >>> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> the recrawl interval is the time after which a document
> >>> is
> >>> >> >> >>> checked
> >>> >> >> >>> >> for
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> changes.
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> However, we observed that the recrawl interval for a
> >>> >> document
> >>> >> >> >>> >> increases
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> after each check. On the other hand, the reseed
> >>> interval
> >>> >> seems
> >>> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> >>> be
> >>> >> >> >>> >> set
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> up correctly in the database metadata about the seed
> >>> >> >> documents.
> >>> >> >> >>> Yet
> >>> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> web server does not receive requests at each time the
> >>> >> interval
> >>> >> >> >>> >> elapses
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> but
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> only after several intervals have elapsed.
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> We are using a web connector. The web server does not
> >>> tell
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> client
> >>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> cache the documents. Any help would be appreciated.
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Best regards,
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Florian
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
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