I'd be most curious to see a working example of this idea, prefixes
and all for sleeping (long term sleeping) nodes (slave and masters).

Anybody, do post what you have/are doing on this taskid resuse and reservations experimentations. Probably many are interested for a variety of reasons including but not limited to security, auditing and node diversification interests.... My interests are in self-modifying codes, which can be achieved whilst the nodes sleep for some very interesting applications.


James



On 07/11/2015 06:01 AM, Adam Bordelon wrote:
Reusing taskIds may work if you're guaranteed to never be running two
instances of the same taskId simultaneously, but I could imagine a
particularly dangerous scenario where a master and slave experience a
network partition, so the master declares the slave lost and therefore
its tasks lost, and then the framework scheduler launches a new task
with the same taskId. However, the task is still running on the original
slave. When the slave reregisters and claims it is running that taskId,
or that that taskId has completed, the Mesos master may have a difficult
time reconciling which instance of the task is on which node and in
which status, since it expects only one instance to exist at a time.
You may be better off using a fixed taskId prefix and appending an
incrementing instance/trial number so that each run gets a uniqueId.
Also note that taskIds only need to be unique within a single
frameworkId, so don't worry about conflicting with other frameworks.
TL;DR: I wouldn't recommend it.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Antonio Fernández
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Sounds risky. Every task should have its own unique id, collisions
    could happen and unexpected issues.

    I think it will be as hard to monitor that you can start again a
    task than get a mechanism to know it’s ID.



    On 10 Jul 2015, at 19:14, Jie Yu <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Re-using Task IDs is definitely not encouraged. As far as I know,
    many of the Mesos code assume Task ID is unique. So I probably
    won't risk that.


    On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Sargun Dhillon <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Is reusing Task IDs good behaviour? Let's say that I have some
        singleton task - I'll call it a monitoring service. It's
        always going
        to be the same process, doing the same thing, and there will
        only ever
        be one around (per instance of a framework). Reading the
        protobuf doc,
        I learned this:


        /**
         * A framework generated ID to distinguish a task. The ID must
        remain
         * unique while the task is active. However, a framework can
        reuse an
         * ID _only_ if a previous task with the same ID has reached a
         * terminal state (e.g., TASK_FINISHED, TASK_LOST,
        TASK_KILLED, etc.).
         */
        message TaskID {
          required string value = 1;
        }
        ---
        Which makes me think that it's reasonable to just give this
        task the
        same taskID, and that every time I bring it from a terminal
        status to
        running once more, I can reuse the same ID. This also gives me the
        benefit of being able to more easily locate the task for a given
        framework, and I'm able to exploit Mesos for some weak guarantees
        saying there wont be multiple of these running (don't worry,
        they lock
        in Zookeeper, and concurrent runs don't do anything, they just
        fail).

        Opinions?




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