Jonathon,

Please forgive my ignorance of Manufacturing terms. Also Now I realize that
this is user mailing list, What I am suggesting will take little bit of
development work.

The tasks in Production run are nothing but WorkEffort. WorkEffort has
association with Order entity. So what we can do is, Create a Template
WorkEffort (Parent ) for the process that is repeated. This template
workEffort can have more then one workeffort Associated with it. Each
associated workEffort represents a task (or Step) in process. For the Tasks
that will be out sourced, create a Template PO and associate it with
WorkEffort.

Now for every production run, we do a Deep copy of Parent WorkEffort.

Regards
Anil Patel



On 1/19/07, Jonathon -- Improov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anil,

How does that relate to my question on tying PO/SO to shipment and to
WorkEffort (production runs)?

Are you saying that there can be a tree of production runs, the upper
nodes being dependent on the
lower leaves?

So, I would have the following production runs:

1. Production run to manufacture a bicycle frame

2. To paint bicycle frame

3. To assemble bicycle

Production run 3 will be top level, and will depend on production run 2,
which will in turn
require 1 to be performed first?

Seems like an odd way to break up a production run. More convenient to
have all 3 production runs
above be made routing tasks instead, routing tasks that all reside within
a single production run.

I'd say the more user-friendly way, but more complex at coding level, is
to have the
sub-contracted routing task (painting) automatically tie to a PO buying
painting services.

Let me know if I understand you correctly?

Jonathon

Anil Patel wrote:
> Yesterday I applied a patch to Jira Issue for Deep copy of WorkEffort.
Its
> based on Idea of Create a Template WorkEffort (can have Assocs) , Then
use
> deep copy service to create instance of  it. This deep copy service can
be
> extended to even copy POs associated with WorkEffort.
>
> Any Ideas!
>
> Regards
> Anil Patel
>
>
>
> On 1/19/07, Jonathon -- Improov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I've confirmed that OFBiz doesn't do anything near as complicated as
what
>> I described below (in
>> 1st post in thread). (Even the routing task type of Sub-contracting
>> doesn't do anything?).
>>
>> I'd like to ask the community for advice of "best practices" before I
>> submit an enhancement. How
>> would you usually go about:
>>
>> 1. Starting production run.
>>
>> 2. Task1: Produce some parts.
>>
>> 3. Task2: Ship parts to vendor for painting.
>>
>> 4. Task3: Assemble painted parts.
>>
>> For Task2 (step 3 above), I'm proposing we have a PO for the painting
>> service, complete with a
>> link from PO to routing task, an outgoing shipment of pre-painted
parts,
>> and an incoming shipment
>> of painted parts.
>>
>> Has anyone done this yet (not merged into OFBiz)? Is it something that
a
>> sizable majority of the
>> community would need? How would such a majority propose I do the above?
>>
>> TIA for inputs!
>>
>> Jonathon
>>
>> Jonathon -- Improov wrote:
>> > Chris,
>> >
>> > Yeah, I read that. Nothing on what I'm talking about here.
>> >
>> > Let me try to get the requirements streamlined or simplified, and
>> see if
>> > OFBiz can handle then.
>> >
>> > Jonathon
>> >
>> > Chris Howe wrote:
>> >> I don't do any manufacturing in my day to day stuff so
>> >> this may not fit your bill exactly, but have you read
>> >> over this:
>> >>
>> >> http://ofbizwiki.go-integral.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Manufacturing
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >> --- Jonathon -- Improov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Say I want to send some parts over to a vendor for
>> >>> painting services.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there a way to:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Create a product of type "service" named
>> >>> PAINTING,
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. Create a PO to purchase this service,
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. Attach to this PO an outgoing shipment ferrying
>> >>> my parts to my vendor,
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. Receive the PO and have my painted parts in my
>> >>> inventory rather than the
>> >>>     product PAINTING.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've tried product associations like "Product
>> >>> Manufactured As", "New Version, Replacement" and "Equivalent or
>> >>> Substitute". Tried associations in
>> >>> both directions. No go.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't "manufacture" PAINTING to produce the
>> >>> painted parts. Nor can I purchase PAINTING to receive the painted
>> parts.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any ideas?
>> >>>
>> >>> Jonathon
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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