David,
I have got absolutely no idea at all why it sounds like I don't like
your landing strip.
This is exactly opposite to the facts.
All analogies have their limits, and maybe this one has already been
stretched too far. But....
Undersun and OpenSource Strategies are beautifully designed examples of
the ideal landing strips for executive jets. So much so I've even been
thinking revamping my own web site along similar lines.
But if you want to bring in the Jumbos then you need to roll in a few
more hot dog stands and kiss-me-quick hats ;)
More to the point - and this is where the analogy breaks down - imho
landing strips is not your main stock in trade. I don't know where you
find the time. Imho you have built the next generation of Rolls Royce
engine any plane manufacturer would give his right arm for.
Your very wrong to say I don't like it. I love it to bits. That's the
problem :-\
Ian
David E. Jones wrote:
Sound great to me Ian. I guess what I'm wondering is if you're really
interested in this, what is YOUR plan to make it so? I guess in other
words, it sounds like you don't like my landing strip. So what would
your landing strip look like, and what are your plans for creating it?
-David
On Jan 20, 2007, at 2:33 AM, Ian McNulty wrote:
Yeah. OK Chris. Very funny, but...
OFBiz is already half way down that 13 year road.
And who's to say that Mark Shuttleworth isn't monitoring this group
on his laptop 35,000 feet over the Pacific and wondering if it might
be worth dropping in.
But if you don't think it's worth bothering to clear a landing strip,
then that could never happen. ;)
Ian
Chris Howe wrote:
It only took Debian 13 years to create a users list
and the keen interest of a billionaire philanthropist.
I think we could get a _real users list with either
half of that equation. Who's with me? ;-)
--- Ian McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nothing at all wrong with the link.
It's what it's linking too that's the problem.
The topics... the layout... everything speaks to me
of engineering plans, not flight plans.
To start building a flight plan you need a blank
page, not one that is already half full with wiring diagrams.
Even Anil thought he was talking to the Dev not the
Users list !!!
Imo there is no users list. If a pilot came across
ofbiz.apache.org he would know at first glance he was in the wrong
place.
The difference is between www.ubuntu.com/ and
www.debian.org/ The first welcomes the uninitiated and draws them
in. The
second looks like a wonderful resource for engineers. We're not
talking
about all the manuals and small print inside the box. Where
talking about what it says at first glance on the tin.
I think I can see where the confusion arises.
You can focus on one or the other, but you can't
focus on both on the same page. (Yes, I know this contradicts my
earlier
post. But it's a question of focus. On the user pages the wiring
needs to be there, but buried behind the dashboard. On the engineering
pages the reverse it true.)
On Si's recommendation I've started reading Bruce
Eckel's 'Thinking In Java.' In Chapter 1 under 'The hidden
implementation' he draws a distinction between 'Class Creators' and
'Client
Programmers.'
Client Programmers are users of the objects produced
by Class Creators - much of which they are deliberately locked out
from
to prevent them monkeying around with things they do not fully
understand.
To me, the Dev list is for class creators. The Users
list for Client Programmers.
There is no users list.
Ian
David E. Jones wrote:
Is there something wrong with the current OFBiz
wiki linked to below?
http://docs.ofbiz.org/pages/listpages-dirview.action?key=OFBIZ
-David
On Jan 18, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Leon Torres wrote:
I also believe it would be worthwhile to
experiment with an open
ofbiz wiki. As the ofbiz community continues to
grow, we will
certainly attain the critical mass necessary to
make such a thing work.
For instance, we've authored a bunch of cookbooks
in .txt format
about specific tricks and how-to's in OFBIZ:
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
Unfortunately contributing to those is hard
because it takes an
investment in time to read, verify, and update
the documents on our
end. If they were in the form of an open wiki,
it would be far
easier to expand on them.
- Leon
Florin Jurcovici wrote:
IMO, an open wiki is the right thing to do. Even
if I had some
experience which I'd like to share, if the wiki
is closed or
restricted, I cannot. Some maintainers should
review docs
occasionally and correct or delete them if they
are not OK, maybe
draw an outline of the documentation at the
beginning then let
whoever is willing to fill the pages. But IMO a
closed/restricted
wiki is not the way to go.
--Florin Jurcovici
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